Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[FunkyJive]

Hi Utilitarian.

I'll try to answer your questions as best I can from entirely my own perspective, accepting that I don't have all the answers and there are doubtless people here that have dedicated fields of knowledge and understanding better than I. However, please note that this motor has yet to be replicated to reflect the claims by Alsetalokin, and until that happens then this is all it is - simply claims by an apparently elusive character with a few theatrics thrown in 


1. Why is it (realistically, aside from the gov conspiracies) that almost none of these demonstrations ever show the overunity being converted into any sort of useful power (like charging a battery)?

There have been claims and even books written on the subject, though something tells me that it would take a unique type of charlatan to persist with twenty or more years of experimentation and very expensive model building if they had the slightest doubt of whether their technology worked (recalling... Bearden, Bedini, even Tesla, etc...etc...). However, it's inescapable that the world economy is fundamentally founded on supplier dependency and cash leverage from the consumption of fossil fuels, so if anything tangible were invented then a targeted campaign to keep inventors quiet remains a very distinct probability in my book.

2. Why is it that this motor can't be hooked up to any sort of lightweight gearing system that ensures super precise timing on each turn? I realize this introduces unwanted friction, but if it is truly over-unity it seems possible that the net energy gain would make it worthwhile. One guess is that the imperfection is what allows this particular motor to work.

It is really "Over Unity?", as Scottmweaver rightly questioned     It's important to remain thoroughly open and objective, no matter how much one might want to believe in the claims of others.

3. Why is it so impossible to find blue prints for this thing? If they're in this forum somewhere, forgive this question, but I've yet to find them. I would build this TODAY if I had the blue prints.

Reportedly Alsetalokin has provided information, though there's good reason to question the validity and extent of the information provided if the claims were indeed true. Call me an ol' sceptic but something doesn't quite ring true in all of this.

4. What is the size-to-power-output ratio? Has anyone tested this? Does it even depend on size?

Zero... well... negative actually   

5. Is this scalable? I mean, can I build a 10' diameter version and have it still work or is there a limit?

You could certainly build a 10" version, but would doubtless just require more energy input to sustain rotation 

6. Does this thing stop working when you apply motion to it? I mean, if I were hypothetically driving my battery-powered car and had this thing running to re-charge the batteries (assuming it ever had enough power to be useful in this manner), would it stop working if I were to make sudden turns, speed up suddenly or stop abruptly?

If it were possible then the generated energy would have to be used to sustain rotation, but would also have to include overcoming gyroscopic forces endeavouring to counter rotation with a fixed axle - based on it's orientation in the vehicle.

7. Given that the answer to the above question is 'no', would it then pose a serious threat to the oil industry?

Current evidence would suggest that this particular incarnation would only pose a threat to personal finances, health and safety 

8. If this thing really does break a law of thermodynamics -- does that mean we just make the minor adjustment to the laws or does it change everything?

It is my belief that the laws are "incomplete", in that COE relates to occurrences (energy in and out) in a fixed time domain. However, relative time-shift occurs in the micro domain all of the time. Consequently, with working knowledge that I'm not at liberty to expand upon, it is my personal belief that OU (in the traditional sense) may be realised by the effects of time-shift at micro level transferring to the macro domain - otherwise known as the fourth dimension. Here's something that I just looked up for you to get you started...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,996610,00.html

9. Has anyone given thought to the gyroscopic implications (benefits and caveats)?[/url]

I can only say so much on the public forums, though suffice to say that rotation is distinctly the key ingredient to this 
If there were gyroscopic benefits to be had then I would respectfully suggest that you build a gyroscope 

10. How long does this thing run before dying out on its own?

Varies. Some have spoken of an evident increase in speed before dying down, but this can be explained by a phased resonant relationship betwen the various forces existent between the various moving parts (will vary, based on a variety of physical factors). Think of a skater spinning with outstretched arms, then drawing them in which causes an increase in rotational speed but NOT an increase in rotational energy. However, if he were to hold his arms in, he would still come to rest nevertheless.


All the best,

FunkyJive

[0c]

Sorry if these questions have been answered, but my mind has been on fire about this technology for a few years now and I thought I'd ask you fine people-

Funky Jive's answers were pretty good. I just thought I'd add a few brief responses of my own.

1. Why is it (realistically, aside from the gov conspiracies) that almost none of these demonstrations ever show the overunity being converted into any sort of useful power (like charging a battery)?

According to Alsetalokin, his WhipMag has powered a small propeller for a while. I'm not sure just how long that was. That does not represent a lot of power. However, he seems to think the effect can be explained without violating any laws of thermodynamics.

2. Why is it that this motor can't be hooked up to any sort of lightweight gearing system that ensures super precise timing on each turn? I realize this introduces unwanted friction, but if it is truly over-unity it seems possible that the net energy gain would make it worthwhile. One guess is that the imperfection is what allows this particular motor to work.

We still don't know what the timing might be. And there is presently only one of these things in existence that demonstrates the effects shown in the video. As soon as there is a successful replication, this will be studied in greater detail. Once we understand things better, I'm sure there are a number of ways it can be optimized.

3. Why is it so impossible to find blue prints for this thing? If they're in this forum somewhere, forgive this question, but I've yet to find them. I would build this TODAY if I had the blue prints.

There are some drawings here in this thread and in other places. Best places to look are:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:OC_MPMM_Magnet_Motor
and
http://www.ospmm.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8

Active development is still proceeding at:
http://www.fizzx.com/viewforum.php?f=16

4. What is the size-to-power-output ratio? Has anyone tested this? Does it even depend on size?

Nobody knows (If Alsetalokin knows, he isn't telling).

5. Is this scalable? I mean, can I build a 10' diameter version and have it still work or is there a limit?

Nobody knows for sure. There is probably a practical limit on size. Just try and find some 12 inch diameter diametrically magnetized neodymium cylinders. And if you do manage to locate some, don't bother telling me how much they cost.

6. Does this thing stop working when you apply motion to it? I mean, if I were hypothetically driving my battery-powered car and had this thing running to re-charge the batteries (assuming it ever had enough power to be useful in this manner), would it stop working if I were to make sudden turns, speed up suddenly or stop abruptly?

The only working model was able to be picked up and tilted in the video. So there is some tolerance. I don't know of any testing to determine the limits.

7. Given that the answer to the above question is 'no', would it then pose a serious threat to the oil industry?

The answer would not have to be "no" for it to pose a threat to the oil industry, providing the device can in fact produce more energy than it consumes. Since there have not been any successful replications so far, there is no way to tell.

8. If this thing really does break a law of thermodynamics -- does that mean we just make the minor adjustment to the laws or does it change everything?

If it breaks the laws of thermodynamics, there is a lot that will need to be rewritten.

9. Has anyone given thought to the gyroscopic implications (benefits and caveats)?

Some, but not much. We are trying to focus on replication. We have considered how gyroscopic actions might contribute to or detract from the effect. Once we have another working device, there are a number of experiments we would like to perform. First things first.

10. How long does this thing run before dying out on its own?

The longest run I am aware of was about 7 hours. Alsetalokin stopped that run prior to going to work. It did not quit on its own.

OC

[Omnibus]

@alsetalokin is a proven hoaxer of the worst type who should be banned from all forums. In addition to other hoaxers, from benign ones who are simply incompetent to those deceiving others for profit, @alsetalokin seems to serve a devious agenda to ?punish? the "fools" who believe in the possibility to build devices producing continuously energy out of nothing (production of energy out of nothing discontinuously is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt) by deliberate leading them into a dead end. There have been several other attempts for such ?punishment? most notorious of which is that of some Mike who led a significant segment of the community to believe he has successfully replicated Bedini?s overunity claim only to disappear suddenly without a trace. Obviously @alsetalokin is serving an agenda of his employers who don?t seem to be bothered by the scam he is pulling on us and are still keeping him as their employee. It appears that Steorn also need his obvious hoax and are still not banning him from their forum.

[JFK]

@alsetalokin is a proven hoaxer of the worst type

And your proof is ?? 

[Omnibus]

Do you recall @alsetalokin's statement that he has proved that something false is false while in the same breath claiming seven hours run without an external energy source? Typical hoaxer laughing in your face.