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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Low-Q


May I provide a little advice?
Be careful when you use the VA-meter. When we deal with electric motors and generators, we also deals with inductors.
Inductors is well known to scew voltage and current out of phase.
You must consider this phase. If not, you will get wrong data if you only look at the voltage and current readings, and then straight forward multiply them. Few VA-meters can deal with correct energy readings due to this.


An extreme example is the parallell connection between a capacitor and inductor. These have together a resonant frequency with a given Q-factor. The less the losses in resistance, the higher the Q.
High Q means there is easy to build up a resonance. Supplying a signal to these components that has the same frequency, you measure next to zero current. However, the current flow between the capacitor and inductor is very high.
The low input current is a result of almost 180° phase shift between voltage and current inside the circuit.


In a serial connection, you will read high input current and low voltage, but voltage over the capacitor an inductor is very high.


Very easy to make inaccurate conclusions if you don't take care of everything during a measurement.


Vidar

Quote from: Bertoa on July 10, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
You know better than me that this kind of discussion is going on as long as modern science (and for sure this forum) exists. It is not that I doubt well established physical evidence but under certain conditions a 500kg glider is falling upwards into the sky. This conditions are also scientifically explainable but till about 1900 this was impossible. People on this forum explore certain conditions. I spent 80 euro to build a test setup of a PMM. How stupid is that? Curiosity does even costs people's lives. Low-Q, thank's for your views on this theme. This forum is worth visiting because of geeks who spend time and money to do unconventional stuff. Ok, enough of this...
My next project is a test setup of a permanent magnet amplifier. The goal is to explore the interaction between fast rotating magnet vortexes, torque and movement in different axes. For this device I use 2 the same DC motors connected to a V/A meter so I can measure under all conditions the in- output power in Watt. The actuator wheel is freely movable so I can search for the best result/efficiency in the system.

norman6538

Quote from: citfta on July 10, 2017, 05:30:09 PM
It stops because the video is faked. 

This pendulum is not faked. All of you cannot make a simple observation.
1. notice how the pendulum moves.... down normally and then up past
the dropped point and then back down very softly and then sits at the bottom.

2. If you were really observant you would have to first say that is very unusual....

It if very clear that clockwise the pendulum looks quite normal but not
counter clockwise.

Now I leave the challenge to you to explain that.....

The really sad thing is that no one has asked to see it in person.

No it is not perpetual motion but no normal pendulum can do this.....

Where does the energy come from that pushes the pendulum past
its dropped point

I am very diasppointed in the lack of curiosity in this device that
simply and clearly show you in front of your eyes that not all energy
is conserved.....

Permanent manets do have potential energy.....

the main point of this video is to show that permanent magnets can
do work and get past the sticky spot and not get stuck at the sticky spot.


PLEASE wake up and get out of your narrow tunnel.


Norman


In order to get the pendulum to swing higher on the left than it started from the board is not vertical.  It is laying back and tilted slightly to the left. 


The board is tilted straight back - not sideways.  The reason for that no one has even
asked but I'll explain it to you for free.  The gravity and magnetic forces have
to be balanced to make it work. In this setup gravity is stronger than the magnets
and it has to be weakened. And if the magnets get too close then the sticky spot
will take over and accomplish nothing.

Norman


It is obvious that is what is going on because the pendulum only swings back slightly past what should be the bottom of the arc when it should at least go as high as it started if the magnets were actually doing anything.

Low-Q


@norman6538
Over unity apply ONLY to systems that can produce more energy than it consumes. The pendulum in question is NOT overunity. Because it stops.
I have also explained this pendulum a few posts further up.


Vidar

norman6538

Quote from: Low-Q on July 10, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
@norman6538
Over unity apply ONLY to systems that can produce more energy than it consumes. The pendulum in question is NOT overunity. Because it stops.
I have also explained this pendulum a few posts further up.


Vidar

Overunity is simply more energy out than in.
Perpetual motion means it keeps on going....
You have missed the very simple principle that the pendulum demonstrates.
No pendulum will go past its dropped point. So where does that extra
2 hrs of lifting come from?  It is clearly more out than in.....

Norman




Low-Q


This is the case, as I see it. It might be wrong, but this is what I see:
The pendulum is dropped at 2 o'clock. It makes a movement clockwise up to 12 o'clock.
Now, 12 o'clock is the new dropping point.
Then the pendulum return counterclockwise at 4 o'clock.


This can only be because the forces (magnetic or gravitational doesn't matter) that pulls on the mass on the pendulum, is offset. Nothing more to it.


Vidar

Quote from: norman6538 on July 10, 2017, 08:00:32 PM
Overunity is simply more energy out than in.
Perpetual motion means it keeps on going....
You have missed the very simple principle that the pendulum demonstrates.
No pendulum will go past its dropped point. So where does that extra
2 hrs of lifting come from?  It is clearly more out than in.....

Norman