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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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JAG

#735
January 13, 2008, 08:42:54 PM
So now we've had three replicators (Vibrator on Steorn, RB on Steorn, and CLaNZer here) report they are seeing the AGW lock effect. (But don't have acceleration yet - mainly due to waiting on the right type of magnets) I think it would be worthwhile for you guys to look at what AL was saying a couple of weeks ago when he first discovered the lock. It's on pages 5,6 & 7 of this thread in the Steorn forum.

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=5

He talks about the need for the dampners, and adjustments he needed to make. With a couple of slight variations in some of the replications you may need to go through a similar type of process to get the same effect as him.

Good Luck

JAG

Rosphere

#736
January 13, 2008, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: btentzer on January 13, 2008, 08:12:29 PM
I only lack 1/2" aluminum round for the dampers and must find that online.  No store in my city has that size (of course  :( ) 3/8" and 1/4" but no 1/2".

I happen to have a couple feet.  How much do you need?  PM me the particulars.

I think I purchased a three foot rod at The Home Depot last year at this time for my Maggie Motor.  Alas, she broke my heart so long ago.  One of you blokes better make an honest woman out of her.  Don't forget to share the honeymoon photos.  ;)

blue_energy

#737
January 13, 2008, 08:47:14 PM
Shoot.  Timed out.  Now I have to type it all again.

I want to suggest a test for you non-armchair experimenters.  In this test you would attach a belt from the test motor to an alternator instead of using the Judson dampers.  The alternator's field coil should be limited via a linear potentiometer such that if the potentiometer was turned completely off - the alternator would have nothing to work against - therefore allowing the alternator to spin freely with almost no drag.

There would be a volt meter attached, in series, between the potentiometer and the alternator, showing how much juice was being sent to the alternators coil.

There would also be a volt meter attached to the output of the alternator, showing how much juice was being produced by it.

There would be something to dynamically gauge the current rpm of the rotor.

The Whipmag motor would be started while the potentiometer was preventing any juice from getting to the alternator's field coil - so it would just be spinning freely.  Once the third stator 'caught', the pot would be turned up just until acceleration stabilized.  When the other two stators were stopped and as acceleration commenced again, the pot would be adjusted until the rotor speed stabilized.

Testing would involve adjusting the potentiometer, to cause the rotor to spin at different rpm, in stages.  At each - the current volts both being consumed and generated by the alternator would be recorded along with the rotor speed.  This would continue between the upper and lower limits of the effect and graphed - hopefully showing a sweetspot, in rpm, where the most power is produced. 

Rosphere

#738
January 13, 2008, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: blue_energy on January 13, 2008, 08:47:14 PM
In this test you would attach a belt from the test motor to an alternator instead of using the Judson dampers.
...allowing the alternator to spin freely with almost no drag.

Are you thinking of the Judson dampers as a drag on the rotor like a belt drive?

I could be wrong but I think the dampers function is to help the stator's inertia to carry it through a sticky spot when the rotor reaches a critical point, to help accelerate the rotor and stator(s), not drag the rotor down like a belt would.

A belt or some other PTO will need to be added later, but this baby is still in the delivery room with momma and it is too early to break-out the cigars.  ;)

Bruce_TPU

#739
January 13, 2008, 09:26:03 PM
Quote from: Rosphere on January 13, 2008, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: btentzer on January 13, 2008, 08:12:29 PM
I only lack 1/2" aluminum round for the dampers and must find that online.  No store in my city has that size (of course  :( ) 3/8" and 1/4" but no 1/2".

I happen to have a couple feet.  How much do you need?  PM me the particulars.

I think I purchased a three foot rod at The Home Depot last year at this time for my Maggie Motor.  Alas, she broke my heart so long ago.  One of you blokes better make an honest woman out of her.  Don't forget to share the honeymoon photos.  ;)

@ Rosphere

Thank you for the offer.  I sent you a pm with the details!   ;D  I don't need much.  LOL

Maggie broke your heart, but perhaps the OCAL will put it back together again.

Thanks as always,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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