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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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RunningBare

#996
January 16, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: lumen on January 16, 2008, 07:20:46 PM
Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tknwdltnB6s

Thank you luman0, you appeared to have proved my point about the stator accelerating and decelerating over one cycle.
It was only a theory I had, so thanks very much for this.

hydrocontrol

#997
January 16, 2008, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: sterlinga on January 16, 2008, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: hydrocontrol on January 15, 2008, 08:47:09 PM
Finally got some shop time. I know it is not an exact replication. [...]. I also found it spins better one direction (CCW) then the other (CW). Not sure why.. Lots of playing to do before I get more shop time. At least it is a start..

I posted a feature page on this:

It would be nice if we had more info
- how fast did it run?
- how long?
- did it accelerate
- video

Thanks

Sterling

Well Thanks Sterling... No sure for what. Not going for any recognition effect. Just having a bit of machining fun. Certainly better than what is on TV. A bit jumping the gun there on a write up... I think you are reading more into my posting then intended or deserved. My old wooden magnet wheel I built about 7 years ago. Nothing special. It ran about 100 rpm.. guessing at that as I did not have a tachometer. Used Radio Shack ceramic magnets that cost a buck apiece. Those ones are pretty strong. Had around 25 or so bolted to the top of the wooden wheel. Looked like Stonehenge on top of a wood disk.  :D It ran as long as I pumped it by hand with a 4 Radio Shack magnets stacked up. It did not accelerate. Well it did if I pumped it faster. Gets kind of tiring pretty fast.  No video as I did not have a video camera back then. I may have a picture somewhere. Like I said . Nothing special. No precision workmanship. It is what you do with a 2x14 about 5 foot long, a pencil compass, a saber saw. a couple of Ace Hardware flanged bearings, a big bolt to go through the bearings, twenty 1 inch angle iron, a bunch of glue and a box of wood screw. Basically something to learn from.

My current replication.. Well I was playing around with the air gun driving the main rotor and I guess (no tach yet. on order) it was going around 1500 RPM. It was really whining. So fast that two of the magnets are now 'lost in the shop'. WARNING.. DANGER Will Robinson  ;)  this setup can make serious and harmful projectiles. There is a big dent in one wall where a magnet hit first. After that I heard it bounce around. I suppose it is stuck to some machine here. As your mother told you.. You can put an eye out with that thing. Once again I was driving it with an AIR GUN to see how fast it would go and how balance it was. It was doing really good. Hindsight.. a little stupid.. okay.. a big stupid. Luckly I ordered 10 so I still have a couple replacements.  :P  No acceleration.. No video of my stupidity. I'll get there.. patients please..

HydroControl.

Bruce_TPU

#998
January 16, 2008, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 16, 2008, 04:29:48 PM
@All,

I want to report that the initial experiments are very promising. After the initial spin a definite acceleration is observed which so far still cannot be sustained as long as @alsetalonkin's but the effect is definitely there. I will restrain at this point from posting a video or quantitative results which I will present to you later.

@Omnibus
Take your time Omnibus.  Very encouraging news, indeed.

@ All
We finally heard back from our CA machine shop and Jason's, Hank's and mine is guarenteed to be completed Monday and in to mail to us.  So I will wait patiently (Not! LOL) and play this weekend.  I am going to make a cheap and dirty one until mine arrives.  I need something to do, and have my magnets and bearings.  Besides, I want to loosen the bearings a bit.  I am not going to post any video, unless I see something interesting.  The good news, is that the one coming is to exact spec's and materials.  I just need to find some N35's.  I, like Rob, am worried about this.

If anyone has a link to some, of our spec'd size, please post for all of us replicators.  Thank you.



Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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