Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[hdeasy]

@Bertoa: Yes, it would need expert timing (the Kung Fu of energy). What you could do is have opto switches and servo motors adjusting the speed of the swaying motion to keep the wheels synchronized. The weights swaying would get you the first approximation and if you had an truly excellent craftsman (not that you aren't!) you could set up the weights precisely with the right offset and size and exquisitely precise initial conditions to get it working without electrical adjustments. But even with the adjustments - they would be low energy as the main energy is already there from the weights.

So with fine adjustments it could work. With large enough wheels would could accelerate up to some good speed and you would have a few kW. Yes it's all just on paper now. I am also having another system (inertial - flywheels with motors and a few extras) built with 2 teams - a company and a colleague in Tenerife. It's a race to see who wins that one. The company is too busy with short staffing in the Summer holidays so the islander may beat them.

[Bertoa]

Hi Low-Q, the bottom line that nothing can change the law of nature is true for systems. Law, thruth and systems are all human concepts/strategies to deal with the world but is not reality itself.
Scientific paradigms are beacons on a sea of possibilities. Nobody can force me to sail on beacons. In case of the PMM you can better ask the question what setup can supply work? Maybe some parts provide work as a catalyst in a (well timed) process of rotation. In that situation the remark of member forest fits perfect by suggesting to add more axis of freedom to movement.
A flywheel cannot provide energy; but is helpful to supply work at the right moment, by pushing a magnet over a dead point in a PMM device. It will lose something but the reward is maybe more.
The word maybe, the doubt but also experiment and knowledge; this is the very core of science! At this forum people are open and plucked enough to thrust their own intuition. Freedom is an an other word for nothing left to lose, tells a song. In that position we can only gain.

[profitis]

"Freedom is an an other word for
nothing left to lose, tells a song. In that position we
can only gain."

You said it berea

[Low-Q]

What you are saying, sort of, is that even if we experience that a mass is gravitationally attracted to another mass, it might in spite of evedence, not be true.
The apple fell down. This is true from our human perspective and experience. Does that mean we don't know enough to say this is the ultimate truth? Will the apple in some occation fall upwards into the sky?
The same analogy can be applied to the conservation of energy. Humans have sufficient knowledge to say this is the ultimate truth.
The same analogy can be transferred to magnetism. How many hobbyists haven't spent years of their life to figure out how to debunk well established physical evedence without success?


There is no good reason why we should continue to debunk reality. Figuratively speaking you believe that the earth is flat ( yes there are people calling themself flat earthers - how stupid is that?)


Vidar

Hi Low-Q, the bottom line that nothing can change the law of nature is true for systems. Law, thruth and systems are all human concepts/strategies to deal with the world but is not reality itself.
Scientific paradigms are beacons on a sea of possibilities. Nobody can force me to sail on beacons. In case of the PMM you can better ask the question what setup can supply work? Maybe some parts provide work as a catalyst in a (well timed) process of rotation. In that situation the remark of member forest fits perfect by suggesting to add more axis of freedom to movement.
A flywheel cannot provide energy; but is helpful to supply work at the right moment, by pushing a magnet over a dead point in a PMM device. It will lose something but the reward is maybe more.
The word maybe, the doubt but also experiment and knowledge; this is the very core of science! At this forum people are open and plucked enough to thrust their own intuition. Freedom is an an other word for nothing left to lose, tells a song. In that position we can only gain.

[hdeasy]

Conservation of energy is a load of hooey. It's a remnant of the steam age. Before steam there was no real concept of energy. But when the steam engines began to churn out energy, people started to think. Then the first results came in that energy could change its nature from electrical to mechanical or heat or potential energy but the total amount always remained the same. So far so good. But in my opinion and that of many others they were too hasty to rush into print with a generalization from a few special cases to a general principle. Was any attempt made to find the exceptions that tested (old English: proved) the rule?
Nah - it was too comfortable to construct a new hallowed cow. So they built their holy cow of the gold of the oil industry and wo betide a Moses who should smash the tablets and rail against their folly.

Flame off. But indeed there are many ways to free energy as the threads here testify. My magnetic way is one and I will soon have my simulation in shape to show it definitely works according to standard physics. My other system, the inertial one, has now 3 groups poised to build it. The race is on there. I know that Steorn's systems also function - they are just so weak that it's hard to show. My inertial one is easy peasy and will churn out 2 to 3 kW from 30W input. And in vacuo possibly a 100 times more efficient. This stuff can't be stopped by holier-than-thou pseuds. Paul Babcock, Jim Murray & co. have some powerful systems to avoid CEMF. Serps etc. So the holy cow is crumbling.