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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Shirakawa

Quote from: g4macdad on January 19, 2008, 06:03:49 PM
Why would you say" two"? I am defending people's right to replicate/investigate this concept. I am pointing out these obvious people with an agenda. What would anyone gain by discouraging this? Think about it!

I'm not discouraging anyone, just warning people that while Bill's efforts in replicating the MPMM may be genuine, his claims may be not. If you didn't know, in 2006 he claimed he successfully replicated the Joe Cell (more details here: http://joecellhydra.com/) and managed to install it in his car which had as a result "tremendous power" while consuming absolutely no fuel, just "orgone". Too bad that a few days later, when people were starting to ask for some more proof and details (somebody also wanted to personally see the Joe cell powered truck) some "MiB"s conveniently threatened Bill forcing him to destroy his plans and his replications and disappear from the Yahoo forums where he wrote about his progresses. As of January 20, 2008, nobody has yet managed to show proof of a working cell despite countless replications attempts (and money spent), Sterling Allan can confirm this. Many people are still wasting money on the Joe Cell hoax because of Bill's "successful" replication in 2006.

Now, how can one manage to replicate something that could solve the oil crisis, completely get rid of it, forget about it and then attempting other OU-like replication projects as if nothing happened is beyond my comprehension. Please allow me to have some doubt in what Bill writes in his posts.


vipond50

Quote from: Shirakawa on January 19, 2008, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: g4macdad on January 19, 2008, 06:03:49 PM
Why would you say" two"? I am defending people's right to replicate/investigate this concept. I am pointing out these obvious people with an agenda. What would anyone gain by discouraging this? Think about it!

I'm not discouraging anyone, just warning people that while Bill's efforts in replicating the MPMM may be genuine, his claims may be not. If you didn't know, in 2006 he claimed he successfully replicated the Joe Cell (more details here: http://joecellhydra.com/) and managed to install it in his car which had as a result "tremendous power" while consuming absolutely no fuel, just "orgone". Too bad that a few days later, when people were starting to ask for some more proof and details (somebody also wanted to personally see the Joe cell powered truck) some "MiB"s conveniently threatened Bill forcing him to destroy his plans and his replications and disappear from the Yahoo forums where he wrote about his progresses. As of January 20, 2008, nobody has yet managed to show proof of a working cell despite countless replications attempts (and money spent), Sterling Allan can confirm this. Many people are still wasting money on the Joe Cell hoax because of Bill's "successful" replication in 2006.

Now, how can one manage to replicate something that could solve the oil crisis, completely get rid of it, forget about it and then attempting other OU-like replication projects as if nothing happened is beyond my comprehension. Please allow me to have some doubt in what Bill writes in his posts.



Ok, i will quit posting any information to the Group.
I will leave it up to the Group  to decide?

Bill

ken_nyus

Quote from: Omnibus on January 19, 2008, 06:26:14 PM
@ken_nyus,

You may have a point. I've noticed difference in behavior and probably easier appearance of the effect when more than one stators are forced AGW.

Just to be clear, with equal spacing of rotors?

like at the 1/2 or 1/4 points.

HyTower

To vipond50
Can you tell me what stator bearing you started out with and what you are using now when you get the three stators to sync.
Also it might be just the camera, but the rotor mag look somewhat different, are they the 1/4 by1/2 round that are in most of the spec i have seen
thanks and keep up the good work
HT

Omnibus

@Shirakawa,

I know nothing about Bill's behavior but many of us here have experienced quite a few instances of various degrees of "disappearances" after a claim was made. At this moment I'm more concerned about the reality of the effect @alsetalokin presented in his video rather than dwell in what Bill or somebody else did or didn't do in the past. Everyone knows that @alsetalokin presented the video only due to my insistence to back up his claims with evidence. Since then we're observing a weirdest behavior on his part which he, although still around, doesn't even perceive as such. I've noted before that from my discussion with him I've observed his only marginal grasp of the subtleties of science. He now demonstrates, in addition, unbecoming behavior a decent technician and engineer, I used to think he is, will never allow himself to stoop to. As many here know, and I've said it repeatedly, I'm approaching the matters of research unassumingly. As the exploration progresses, however, indications of fraudulent behavior don't go unnoticed and if found I, as almost everyone here, will not tolerate them.

Thus, @lasetalokin's is not asked to voice opinions as to whether or not the effect he demonstrates in the video is OU or how this effect can be explained. Instead of pushing what he's not asked and what he's not qualified to utter as an opinion, he should answer the simple question which many people are asking him: is the acceleration seen in his video genuinely due to the working of the motor itself or there is a hidden energy source fraudulently concealed to fool the enthusiasts and punish them for their gullibility? As seen, @alsetalokin is still evading the answer to this simple 'yes' or 'no' question. He thinks he doesn't owe the answer to anyone but he actually does if he wants to preserve his integrity.

Please understand,  violation of CoE has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and the engineering efforts to create such motors will succeed sooner or later. On the road to achieving this goal there will certainly be many fraudulent outright fools or elaborate deceivers set to discourage these efforts. The sooner these clowns are exposed the better for the health of this exploration. I really hope this isn't the case here and what we're observing is only due to poor social skills.