Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[zapnic]

Re effects and reverse spin.

Sink Science http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFMqPWSpmTY

steven mark device works Little bit like that video?
mmmhh maybe put compass top of that WhipMag and see what happens?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqEd3KHuEHU

[dean_mcgowan]

So far most of us have succeeded in latching the lone stator AGW. That latching was the "mistake" which @alsetalokin made which he says led him to success. Obviously, however, there something more to it because no one here can yet see the self-sustaining spin despite the AGW latch. My next step will be to exchange the current N42 rotor magnets with N38 and then with N32 ans see if this would make any difference.

After that you may want to try different combinations of magnet strengths.
Then possibly adding a pulsed electromagnet somewhere nearby.

And on another issue :
My problem with the measurements given by artificially maintaining the rotor speed is that there is energy constantly being added to the system and therefore it is not a  good representation of the Al effect (if there is one).

Heres one for the conspiracy theorists ...

@All
Assuming it really worked at all. Do you think Al and OC are colluding to halt people from advancing their investigations into the "Whipmag" (still hate the name). ? After all, OC has now retired from the forums.
And Al, well I still cant fathom why they would be in contact after his behaviour though there seems to be no hard feelings. Just doesn't add up to me.

[Omnibus]

@dean_mcgowan,

@overconfident is completely unimportant in this discussion and shouldn?t be mentioned at all. As for @alsetalokin, his behavior has been strange from the get-go. Since, however, the important point is whether or not there?s an effect one has to detach himself from the character issues.  As of now most of us are taking his claims unassuming, honestly trying to replicate what?s shown in the video without any suggestion of fraud (pulsed electromagnet somewhere, hidden motor etc.) Recall that he also explicitly denies such deliberately set hidden energy sources.

As for the spinning by adding external energy, while it?s not the effect claimed, it can give an estimate of the energy produced from within should we be able to observe the acceleration seen in the video. A rotor of a given mass and form requires only a strictly set amount of energy to spin at a certain rpm. Thus if we observe spinning of that rotor at such rpm with no input of energy then we will know the exact amount of energy out of nothing obtained (if the effect seen in the video is real). Call knowing the external energy necessary to spin the rotor at given rpm calibration. Spinning by adding external energy also gives a picture of the behavior of the machine?s various parts and that sometimes may give hints what direction to follow in search of the effect.

[Esa Maunu]

@CLaNZeR,

I got to thinking today, while revising the opening review at PESWiki.

If I were you, seeing how you've had such a hard time getting the spec magnets to work, I'd go back to your interim set-up as shown at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZPI5BwccsA and try to optimize that set-up.

Go with what works.

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@All,

I've created a shortcut url for the PESWiki OC MPMM open source project home page: http://www.oc-mpmm.com

Hello,

If you have an off center rotation with a magnets,like you see in a video, it means that there is an acceleration effect, because magnets moves with a elliptical path. This means also that the possible charge that is created, radiates because of the acceleration and can form EM patterns around, to collect more charged particles from the environment.

Esa

[Omnibus]

@Esa Maunu,

No, that's not only far-fetched but outright impossible. Radiation, if we can speak of initial charging at all, amounts to loss of energy, not gain.