Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[RunningBare]

@all
It would be interesting to attach 2 electric motors, one on the rotor and one on the stator, then make them run.
For example, the one connected to the rotor running at fixed speed, while the stator at variable speed. By changing the speed of rotation gradually, one could detect when less and less energy is requested to run the engines until finding the correct speeds for the auto-rotation.
This method would replace thousands of manual spins and could lead to a result in minutes.
What do you think? 

The thought has crossed my mind as well.
Crucial thing to do then is to monitor the current drawn by these motors, to see significant change.
However there is a phase relation between rotor and stator.
That's not easy to manage with two independant motors to drive such rigs

IMHO not a good test, if this device really works, then there is a symbiotic relationship between rotor and stator, each keeping the other in check so to speak, adding motors to them is the same as putting a leash on them, you see, you can spin the motors upto 1250 for rotor and 5000 for stator, but how are you going to get them to sync? its the motors now in control not the rotor and stator.

[geodan]

@all
It would be interesting to attach 2 electric motors, one on the rotor and one on the stator, then make them run.
For example, the one connected to the rotor running at fixed speed, while the stator at variable speed. By changing the speed of rotation gradually, one could detect when less and less energy is requested to run the engines until finding the correct speeds for the auto-rotation.
This method would replace thousands of manual spins and could lead to a result in minutes.
What do you think? 

The thought has crossed my mind as well.
Crucial thing to do then is to monitor the current drawn by these motors, to see significant change.
However there is a phase relation between rotor and stator.
That's not easy to manage with two independant motors to drive such rigs

IMHO not a good test, if this device really works, then there is a symbiotic relationship between rotor and stator, each keeping the other in check so to speak, adding motors to them is the same as putting a leash on them, you see, you can spin the motors upto 1250 for rotor and 5000 for stator, but how are you going to get them to sync? its the motors now in control not the rotor and stator.

IMHO RB, there are no bad tests.... if it yields data and results even if negative then it's a good test.

[niente]

After watching the third Alsetalokin video, things are quite clear. Now that we know how the stator rotates towards the rotor, it's easy to calculate the speed ratio between the two, that is EXACTLY 4:1. So in my opinion it is only a matter of speed. The device must rotate at a speed that makes the rotor and the stator inertia to have enough momentum to continue the motion.

I think that attaching 2 engines to rotor and stator could be a great idea to create the initial conditions (by just setting the right RPM and direction on both engines, then detaching them suddenly). The rotor should be set at least at 1200-1400 RPM, and consequently the stator at 4800-5600 RPM). 
Obviously the initial position of magnets should reflect the correct one shown in the Al video (if we consider it genuine), and stators should not be too light...

[RunningBare]

IMHO not a good test, if this device really works, then there is a symbiotic relationship between rotor and stator, each keeping the other in check so to speak, adding motors to them is the same as putting a leash on them, you see, you can spin the motors upto 1250 for rotor and 5000 for stator, but how are you going to get them to sync? its the motors now in control not the rotor and stator.

IMHO RB, there are no bad tests.... if it yields data and results even if negative then it's a good test.

I agree with you, so long as false measurements can be ruled out.

Perhaps one way to reduce this would be to only motorize one at a time, leaving the other free to do its thing.

[DA]

@All,

It wouldn't be a bad idea to limit somehow the silly comments and focus on the replication.

To use your double negative, it would not be a bad idea to not insult everyone that has an idea different from yours, Omnibus.    In the short time I've been here, I have seen Omnibus insult too many people, spouting that "we are here to focus on the replication, nothing else!"  To encourage people in this thread to ONLY try for a strict replication may have it's merits, but to instantly shut out any and all other ideas and label any as "worthless" is very narrow minded.  If Al is throwing his in the trash, it may not be best to "replicate". 

We have a special group of people here, and to do anything to INHIBIT people expressing their ideas is counterproductive.  We are here to share everything, and work together.  We are here to find out not only what works, but what doesn't work.  We are here to share knowledge, and to learn new things.   Let us do it.

DA