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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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JFK

That's fine Omni... I did not expect you or anyone to drop everything and attempt my vision...

The fact is that I have not seen anything like what I described attempted yet....

Like I said, it is merely my 2 cents.  ;)


couldbe

Quote from: Grimer on February 18, 2008, 10:48:13 AM

Mr Entropy on Steorn Forum makes an important point.

"After playing around with my son's magnetics set, it looks to me like there's a big potential hill of repulsion
you have to push through to get the rolling magnet into the starting position where it starts to attract."


I rather assumed that CLaNZeR would have noticed this but maybe not.

If the gate array field is terminated by hills at each end then there is still the possibility of motion in a large circular array. But I would like to see a long linear array first since this might well show breakdown.

Clanzer's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4kq1oNMtws shows that the repulsion is overcome in going from one array to the next, at least on a flat surface.

If the roller exiting array 1 is made to slow down by a respectable amount, by going up a slope for example, and it is still able to enter array 2, then I don't see what there is to stop someone from constructing a circle of arrays to close the loop, or from just conveying the roller down a slope back to the first array.

Craigy

The problem with trying to get asymetry in a device such as the one you descibe is that although on paper it looks like the pull of some magnets will offset the push of others you forget that the magnetic field strenght up close is inverse cubed , which means that when close up to one pole the other pushing magnets , which are pushing from much larger distances ( although on paper it doesn?t seem that large) will have a negligible effect on the sticky spot. It could be possible , but using precision magnets at precision distances measured to 100th of a millimetre. But don?t forget that magnets when all sat together move about their bh curve complicating the calculation even more. Magnets unfortunately are like sponges , their levels of saturation rise and fall.  All done by the great creator to ensure that free energy is not given up without a fight.
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JFK

Quote from: Craigy on February 18, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
All done by the great creator to ensure that free energy is not given up without a fight.

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Grimer

Quote from: Craigy on February 18, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
The problem with trying to get asymmetry in a device such as the one you describe is that although on paper it looks like the pull of some magnets will offset the push of others you forget that the magnetic field strength up close is inverse cubed , which means that when close up to one pole the other pushing magnets , which are pushing from much larger distances ( although on paper it doesn?t seem that large) will have a negligible effect on the sticky spot. It could be possible , but using precision magnets at precision distances measured to 100th of a millimetre. But don?t forget that magnets when all sat together move about their bh curve complicating the calculation even more. Magnets unfortunately are like sponges , their levels of saturation rise and fall.  All done by the great creator to ensure that free energy is not given up without a fight.

Quite so. And it's in the non linearity of the BH curve that salvation lies. Unfortunately, it's too blooming complicated to work out from first principles without an intimate knowledge of the effect of the magnetic interactions on the BH curves, and probably not even then  So the best way of going about things is to fiddle around and hope to get lucky. It could well have been Alsetalokin. Perhaps we will never know.
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