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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: spacetrax on February 21, 2008, 12:44:35 AM
Hi,
let ?s be realistic, the energy that the PMM produces making 10 full turns - if any - is much less than the energy required to magnetize the magnets. So, there is no OU here.
I spent enough money on magnets and I tried quite hard to make a real PMM but I failed to succeed to date.

Cheers,
Spacetrax

Quote from: spacetrax on February 20, 2008, 01:45:46 AM
"...However, he seems to know what is in my mind without asking him, so he begun telling me about magnets. they are like batteries whose energy is very hard to extract, once loaded, that is why the magnets hold their field for tens of years, and this fact lead many people to the FALSE IDEA that a motor made with permanent magnets would run for many years withoud adding energy in the system. But if one tricks the energy out of the magnets, making a magnet motor with them, they will demagnetise quite quickly, maybe in a few days, so this is not a real overunity system.
/Spacetrax
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Just the contrary, show me a magnetic motor working for a very short time, say making 10 full turns in a row on its own while self starting and then try to argue with me it isn't OU.
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The above shows clear misunderstanding of the scientific basis of overunity. If you have studied thermodynamics you would know that the energy put in to produce the machine is never taken into account when carrying out the energy balance. This is to be realistic. Therefore, if, once the motor is constructed it can make ten full turns on its own without external energy input, self-starting, then it's a proof that thermodynamic laws are violated which the whole contemporary science is up in arms against acknowledging no matter what evidence is presented. Since, however, we're interested in the truth and not in what a certain establishment acknowledges or doesn't acknowledge we have to recognize that the only scientifically rigorous proof for violation of CoE so far is provided by the Johannes Taisnierius device (contemporary SMOT, that is) producing energy out of nothing discontinuously. So far there has been no evidence whatsoever that anyone has constructed a device producing energy out of no source continuously. Therefore, despite the fact that violation of CoE has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, it's somewhat more practical aspect is still wanting.

Craigy

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=QPpvsM5tuQU

more playing by me , would like to say it will work but am yet to be convinced
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CaDreamer

 ??? Can anyone help? I'm looking for a source for the rotor shaft and bearing as used on the alsetalonkin video. The shaft is mounted on a flange that is attached to the plastic base plate. Looks like it might be from a reel to reel tape recorder. I've read most of the 178 pages here and might have missed it if someone has mentioned how it was made. Or if someone has come up with a good substitute could you please tell me what to use and where the materials can be found. I'm not giving up on the untapped forces that magnets process.  :-\

Yadaraf

Quote from: CaDreamer on February 21, 2008, 04:08:00 PM
??? Can anyone help? I'm looking for a source for the rotor shaft and bearing as used on the alsetalonkin video. The shaft is mounted on a flange that is attached to the plastic base plate. Looks like it might be from a reel to reel tape recorder. I've read most of the 178 pages here and might have missed it if someone has mentioned how it was made. Or if someone has come up with a good substitute could you please tell me what to use and where the materials can be found. I'm not giving up on the untapped forces that magnets process.  :-\

CaDreamer,

Al's rotor shaft appears to be a "junkheap" part.

You might try the shaft from a record player turntable.  My turntable actually lifts off the spindle -- much like a tape reel.

Cheers,   :)

Yada..
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robbie47

Guys let's keep this on topic.

If you want discussions on different principles, please start another thread.