Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[JFK]

Ask, would it not be better top begin a new thread with your questions rather than spamming an existing thread devoted ( at least it was devoted ) to a specific project ?

As far as your question, I suggest you google "Coral castle code".... That *might* provide some insight to your line of inquiry.

[Grimer]

The WhipMag acceleration is genuine.

The key to understanding is recognising the essential difference between GW and AGW rotation in terms of its implications for magnetic interaction; in recognising also why AGW rotation of the stators is relatively hard to obtain, relatively unstable, compared with GW rotation.

When you can see it the answer is painfully obvious.

In GW rotation the rotor is dragging the stators around. The magnetic fields are in attraction, in magnetic tension.

In AGW on the other hand the rotor is pushing the stator around. The magnetic fields are in repulsion, in magnetic compression.

Compression is inherently unstable whereas tension is inherently stable. If you push on a thin column say then it will buckle at a load well below the load it will take in tension. If you push a wheeled object it is difficult to keep in in a straight line, it will veer away from the force vector to one side or the other. If on the other hand you pull it, it will veer towards the force vector.

Now clearly, if you have one stator pushing the rotor one way, and two other stators pushing it the other then its a bit of a tug of war between them isn't it.

If you then suddenly stop the stators that are pulling, the GW stators, then the stator that is pushing, the AGW stator will speed up and accelerate the rotor - which is of course exactly what the Alsetalokin video shows.

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It's appropriate at this stage to say a word about the speed of magnetic propagation.

In free space electromagnetism propagates at the speed of light but the magnetic domains in a magnet do not react at the speed of light but at a much lower speed. The magnet has a reaction time just as we have a reaction time and it is this which is important.

If someone fires a gun 30 feet away from our ear then we will take 0.2 seconds to react, say. This delay is our reaction time. It is as though the sound took 0.2 seconds to travel the 30 feet and our reaction time was zero. So the effective speed of sound is 150 feet/sec in this instance, not 1100 feet per second.

It's like air travel. To make a fair comparison with travel by train you have to take into consideration the hours you spend in the airports checking in at one end and trying to find your luggage at the other.

In view of the above there must be an optimum torsional resistance for the stators. Too little and the push-pull between them will be too small. Too much and they wont move at all, of course.

Correct me if I'm mistaken but I get the impression that people have been opting for as little resistance to turning as possible. This would seem to be a mistake and probably explains the lack of a Alsetalokin replication so far (and Al's sore thumb, maybe.  )

[Yadaraf]

Grimer,

On the topic of Al's sore thumb:

Q:  What do you make of this video -- around 01:10 -- where the builder simply pivots the stator to place it in AWG.

... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_o08Il8mqk


Cheers

Yada..
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[Omnibus]

@Grimer,

Correct me if I'm mistaken but I get the impression that people have been opting for as little resistance to turning as possible. This would seem to be a mistake and probably explains the lack of a Alsetalokin replication so far (and Al's sore thumb, maybe.

I don't think this to be the case. The problem is to find the proper resistance relationship. I noted on several occasions that lubricating the stator with penetrating wrench oil lubricant changes dramatically the behavior of the rig. Not so if you do that with the rotor. So, I suggested we'd play with varying the lubricants for the rotor and the stators in trying to find the lucky strike.

I'd like, however, to continue discussing your theory of excess energy production picking it up at the point we left it. Let me do it in another posting.

[Omnibus]

@Grimer,

So we left the conversation at the point where we both agreed that the H and B you?re talking about are not the H which induced the B to begin with. Therefore, the H-B hysteresis you talk about is not the hysteresis usually understood, inferred when the behavior (in terms of its induction B) of a ferromagnetic material is observed under the action of an external magnetic field H. In the case you?re observing you?re treating the B of the already produced magnet as the H which changes the B of another already produced magnet. You should agree, however, that if such a picture is to be adopted then both magnets exert influence on each other and either one can be pronounced as H, not only the stronger one, as you insist, especially when they are so close in properties (supposedly, because one is N38, the other is N42).

Let?s, however, adopt the picture you propose, that is, that the stronger magnet (the stator) produces the H field while the weaker magnet (the rotor) is the receptor and we?re studying its B.

First off, I think we should designate these new H and B as deltaH and deltaB or H? and B? to distingush them from the genuine H and B.

Then we?ll observe how B? changes with changing H?, to and fro. This will form a nice little hysteresis loop within the inherent (the one it came to us from the factory) hysteresis loop of the rotor magnet.

The area enclosed by this nice little hysteresis loop will give us the energy spent to carry out this whole exercise, that is, to move the stator closer and closer to the rotor and then remove it away from it, thus varying the H.

Now, again, the main question arises?how was that energy supplied that energy spontaneously? Mind you, for this to be a perpetuum mobile said energy must come out of no energy source. Is that the case?