Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[g4macdad]

Now what I was really searching Steorn for was a reference to the table under Al's rig being a magnetic metal table, which I somehow thought of yesterday...

That desktop is steel, under the Formica, by the way. Magnets stick to it quite well.

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60132&page=11


Anyone give it a try on top of a steel table? I am going to try and find something to try this.

ken_nyus,

The metal table seems odd, because Al also stated that stray metal needed to be removed from the work space.  He mentioned specifically that a small screwdriver nearby the device adversely affected its operation.

Cheers

Yada..
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If he's lying about the Magnet Motor , why wouldn't he lie about the table?

[sm0ky2]

There's a faint 100 Hz tone in the baseline, but it could be an artifact of the "audio cleaning" or compression to YouTube format -- over and over again and again. 

A spectral analysis of the "cleaned audio" video shows something very similar to the first video:

LO/HI tones
=========
... 1st plateau @ 1700 RPM:  LO tone @ 168 Hz, HI tone @ 829 Hz
... 2nd plateau @ 4733 RPM:  LO tone @ 177 Hz, HI tone @ 872 Hz

HI/LO Harmonics:
==============
... 829/168 = 4.935
... 872/177 = 4.927

Note that the HI tone overwhelms the LO tone at the 1st plateau.  However, this reverses at the 2nd plateau when the LO tone dominates the HI tone.  During acceleration, the amplitude of the LO tone increases dramatically, and becomes the primary sound that you hear.  It's a very "guttural" tone, and I'd love to know where it's coming from.  It reminds me of a monk chanting "Om."


Cheers

Yada..
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4.9 is too low to hear just with our human ears, its higher than that. perhaps it is from the audio filter, or conversion process.. i cant assume this to be true or false. only that there is a 'hum'..

if he did have a hidden motor to operate the device, i think where it is, or how he hid it from view is irrelevant. i just said "table" because thats the only thing you see in the video is the table. you dont see whats to the right, it could be something like in that Tape-Head video..

im not implying that he did in-fact 'fake' this device,
but in lue of the fact that noone has sucessfuly replicated it, including AL himself
as well as the inconsistencies in AL's statements,- im not prepared to rule out that option just yet.

unfortunately the original device got "trashed" - so how this worked  if it did,. we may never know.

[Yadaraf]

There's a faint 100 Hz tone in the baseline, but it could be an artifact of the "audio cleaning" or compression to YouTube format -- over and over again and again. 

A spectral analysis of the "cleaned audio" video shows something very similar to the first video:

LO/HI tones
=========
... 1st plateau @ 1700 RPM:  LO tone @ 168 Hz, HI tone @ 829 Hz
... 2nd plateau @ 4733 RPM:  LO tone @ 177 Hz, HI tone @ 872 Hz

HI/LO Harmonics:
==============
... 829/168 = 4.935
... 872/177 = 4.927

Note that the HI tone overwhelms the LO tone at the 1st plateau.  However, this reverses at the 2nd plateau when the LO tone dominates the HI tone.  During acceleration, the amplitude of the LO tone increases dramatically, and becomes the primary sound that you hear.  It's a very "guttural" tone, and I'd love to know where it's coming from.  It reminds me of a monk chanting "Om."


Cheers

Yada..
.

4.9 is too low to hear just with our human ears, its higher than that. perhaps it is from the audio filter, or conversion process.. i cant assume this to be true or false. only that there is a 'hum'..

if he did have a hidden motor to operate the device, i think where it is, or how he hid it from view is irrelevant. i just said "table" because thats the only thing you see in the video is the table. you dont see whats to the right, it could be something like in that Tape-Head video..

im not implying that he did in-fact 'fake' this device,
but in lue of the fact that noone has sucessfuly replicated it, including AL himself
as well as the inconsistencies in AL's statements,- im not prepared to rule out that option just yet.

unfortunately the original device got "trashed" - so how this worked  if it did,. we may never know.

sm0ky2,

4.9 is the ratio between LO and HI tones -- approximately "5".  Thus, IMHO the HI tone appears to be a 5th harmonic of the LO tone. 

The final LO tone that you hear is around 177 Hz.   

Cheers

Yada..
.

[sterlinga]

It's been a while since I checked up on this thread.  I presume from the silence in my inbox and at PESWiki on this topic that no one else has yet been able to replicate any form of acceleration or speed maintenance on this design.  If it is otherwise, please drop me a line at sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com.  I've glanced through the messages up to p. 174 on this thread, but I'm not going to try to keep up any more. 

It looks to me like this motor is another dud.  The original may have worked, but it is so finicky that even if a couple of people have been able to replicate some extent of acceleration, it is so temperamental that it will take loads of R&D before it turns into something useful.

Sterling

[geodan]

It's been a while since I checked up on this thread.  I presume from the silence in my inbox and at PESWiki on this topic that no one else has yet been able to replicate any form of acceleration or speed maintenance on this design.  If it is otherwise, please drop me a line at sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com.  I've glanced through the messages up to p. 174 on this thread, but I'm not going to try to keep up any more. 

It looks to me like this motor is another dud.  The original may have worked, but it is so finicky that even if a couple of people have been able to replicate some extent of acceleration, it is so temperamental that it will take loads of R&D before it turns into something useful.

Sterling

I don't know... it's a frustration for sure, there seems to be a missing ingredient and  so far no one but Al knows for sure what it might be...

I think that until we have some more information most have moved on to other things like the triforce gate project on CLaNZeR's site...
I'm experimenting with spinning "tops" made up of spherical .5"neos with .25x.5 cylindricals (like the rotor mags) stuck on either side (-o-) and placing similar configurations nearby to see what affect can be induced on to the spinning configuration... the goal being sustainability or better, but I have nothing to report so far... just having some fun...