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Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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ezzob

Well all whipmagers i am going to bed now, hope you going to do a very god fake all of you.

Regards

Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on March 18, 2008, 09:04:12 AM

it doesn?t explain how the self-sustaining run is achieved. If you can formulate it better, maybe analytically with formulae, it probably will make sense. The way you describe it now is just not clear. Flux compression requires work. How is the work done by, say, the rotor more than compensated by spontaneous work done by the stator? There maybe something to it, I can sense it intuitively but has to be described more clearly. The mechanism of this ever persisting overcompensated juggling of energy between the rotor and stator isn?t at all evident.

Omni,

It's still my opinion that Al's self-sustaining rotation might have been caused by micro-oscillations in the stator and/or rotor, as I tried to demonstrate in my Lego video.  These oscillations might have been induced by Schumann resonance modes, which would explain the 7 Hz and 19 Hz speed plateaus.  As well, they might have been induced by vibrations in the table or other environmental phenomenon.  Again, atmospheric electrodynamics in Canada are very strong (nearer to the magnetic North) -- if that's where Al lives -- and Al's device might have simply tapped into the naturally occurring "free" or "ambient" energy that Tesla wrote about. 

(Metaphysically speaking, Alsetalokin and Nikola Tesla might share the same space/time or time/space.   :D  It depends on your view of reincarnation, channeling, evolution of consciousness, etc.)

Cheers :)

Yada..
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sm0ky2

@ Omni,

when you have a "monopole" and a dipole - theres an area near the meridian where the force is max at the perpendicular, and null on the plane of the field. If the two magnets are rotating opposite one another
    (as occurs in AGW) in the proper allignment, there is no repulsion, commng together, the flux compresses, or rather moves out of the way with no force, as the two poles come off of that plane there starts to be force, but they are already passed the meridian, so the force builds up until it collapses and snaps back into its 'normal' position.  this pushes both magnets away from each other in the direction of rotation.

I'm not entirely sure this can even occur in a circular motion, a series of arcs for sure. similar to Ed's motor.
it may very well be possible in a circular motion, if the proportions were right between rotor/stator, but then again, the conditions may simply not be compatible with that shape... who knows.. theres a near infinite number of combinations we could try...
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Omnibus

That has to be developed further because it isn't clear how the energy out of no source comes about through that compression.

sm0ky2

Quote from: Omnibus on March 18, 2008, 11:19:58 PM
That has to be developed further because it isn't clear how the energy out of no source comes about through that compression.

i keep trying to write this out, but it doesnt make sense in terms of standard magnetics. You have to view the node as a monopole for it to make sense. - even though the node is actually an inverted quadrapole.

since one pole is artifically suppressed, there is only one active pole semi-spherically around the inner and outer sides of the node. This forms a forced-monopole.  we'll assume the N and S sides are equal, but in reality they vary slightly..


When the monopole approaches the like-pole of the di-pole rotary-stator (at a point passed the meridian)
     the magnetic flux is parallel to the direction of rotation - and therefore the force is perpendicular
  this puts pressure outwards on the shaft, but nothing negative against the direction of rotation - so the two magnets continue to turn inwards, without disruption of momentum. - up to a maximum flux compression, after which point the flux meridian (which has now been mishapen by the other like field) snaps back into position, imparting a force onto both rotational magnets which is perpendicular to the flux - when this happens the magnets are turned 90-degrees with respect ot one another, so the force is in the direction of rotation.

its not exactly as clear cut as i that - this actually occurs as a ramp function with increasing force up to the perpendicular point (then becomes negative inverse)  on both ends of the field. Which is kind of why im thinking it cant work with 2 perfect circles... - and even though AL's device is magnetically a bubbly-octagon,
the point where the the rotor and stators interact: the fields are  essentially "circular".

                      1/2 of the di-pole ,   and a rounded surface of the forced-monopole.

the other problem that arises with perfect circles is their proportion:  they have to be proportionate such that the fields interact exactly in the same manner at each passing. - this sounds simple, but i cant find two circles that do this - at least not with any configuration of 8 or 10 monopoles around the rotor.....

This has prevented me from verifying the assumption i made about about circles being possible or not here.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.