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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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FunkyJive

I believe the correct term would be "reportedly destroyed", as casting the device into an open bin on camera (if I recall correctly) is hardly as convincing or decisive as smashing the thing to bits with a hammer whilst running  ;)

There's also a subtle but important difference between claiming that a device is "not OU", and not claiming that a device is OU. I'm not immediately aware of exactly what was said by the claimant, though reportedly operating for several hours would be reasonable grounds for discussions to at-least intelligently and shame-lessly debate such a possibility. In all fairness though, statements of this nature can easily get lossed or confused in the translation.

If I myself had developed or stumbled across such a working device, I would then invite interested individuals (even friends and associates at a private gathering if necessary) to attend demonstration and study the device further  -  to encourage collective interest and comment, and with others then able to publicly attest to a working model and record their own video's of the event in a suitably-lit environment.

This would then go some way in serving to reduce prolonged and concentrated scepticism and pressures that (again) reportedly led to the distruction of the device through sustained frustration. With the many convincing fakers looking to steal the limelight, what else might one reasonably expect?

However, I'm not aware of anyone here or anywhere else who is willing and able to personally confirm operation of the device by having seen it, in the flesh, with their own eyes. If this is the case then please step forward... anyone?...

I'm sorry if I've misinterpreted anything or have missed something important buried in this lengthy thread, but as it currently stands the Alsetalokin story just doesn't appear to stack up   :-\


All the best,

FunkyJive

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sm0ky2

Quote from: Low-Q on April 24, 2008, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on April 23, 2008, 08:23:53 PM
Summary::::

Al made a YouTube Video, showing a promising device. He has utterly failed to represent this device in any replicatable construct, despite now hundreds of attempts.....

some 3,000 pages later across 9 threads, and noone has been able to achieve anything close to a working device based on this design.

Al still claims to this day, that his video (and the apparent acceleration of the device) is authentic.
But he himself has been unable to replicate it. and the original has been destroyed by its creator.

OC MPMM R.I.P.

Thanks for your help!

Btw: Isn't it obvious that one would destroy a working OU motor? What interest do anyone have in a true OU motor? Give me a break ;D. The motor is "destroyed" due to some non-provable claims.

Br.
Vidar

That's the whole thing... AL never made these claims... OTHER PEOPLE DID!!  people that watched his video..

now:  did AL make the video appear to be misleading? i must say i got the same impression that everyone else did from watching it. 
but AL himself never claimed the things that everyone else said HIS motor "did".

The only distinguishable facts that AL has confirmed is:

1) he spun the rotor up  - putting energy into it.

2) when he took away some of the 'drag', the motor spun faster. (i.e. stopping the other stators)

is this any different than a kid hanging on the edge of a whirl-go-round, then jumping towards the center??
is it our own faults for making the (false) assumptions of apparent "OU" ??

is it AL's responsibility to track down hundreds of would-be replicators and stop them from trying to recreate his works??  or to hop around to 9 different forums and correct all the false conjecture being passed around??

There are a lot of lessons to be learned from this experience.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

vipond50

Hello
I built a device very close to what Al did in the second video. It was remarkable and a enjoyable project, in fact I still give it a spin up every now and then.
Truthfully I could really give a hoot about OU that Al state was NOT in the device, all I want to see was it increase in rpm and or maintain rpm for a short time and i would have been all smiles. Well I have to be honest i am still smiling when i give it a spin up  ;D

Regards
Bill

Yadaraf

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@ALL replicators still interested

RE: Rubber mounts discovered in 2nd Video

After looking closely at Al's second "trashcan" video it's apparent that he mounted his spindle on rubber shock mounts.   ::)   It's possible that these mounts allow the rotor to wobble in such a way that "favorable" resonance conditions might occur (useful flux oscillations).

Below are two images that show the spindle and rubber mounts.  If you want to make your Whipmag "wobble like Al's," then you might try inserting some rubber between the spindle and base.

Notes:

.. 1.  Inserting rubber mounts should not change the rotor height above the base (i.e. maintain relationship between the rotor and stator magnets).

.. 2.  The rotor should not only move up-and-down but also teeter side-to-side, thus the hole in the base plate might need to be opened to permit the spindle to pivot.

.. 3.  Al's rotor might have had eccentricity problems as well -- exacerbating the wobble --  thus some lopsidedness might be good.

Cheers :)

Yada ..

attack duck

Quote from: vipond50 on April 25, 2008, 12:57:45 AM
Hello
I built a device very close to what Al did in the second video. It was remarkable and a enjoyable project, in fact I still give it a spin up every now and then.
Truthfully I could really give a hoot about OU that Al state was NOT in the device, all I want to see was it increase in rpm and or maintain rpm for a short time and i would have been all smiles. Well I have to be honest i am still smiling when i give it a spin up  ;D

Regards
Bill

Hi Bill, so are you saying you achieved acceleration or an extended spin down? Did you employ the
two gear wise stators and then stop them to achieve further acceleration?  Nobody has reported
acceleration except possibly momentarily.  Very unclear what you are saying.  Please elaborate!