notes from Linden, Switzerland

[hartiberlin]

P.S: The really strangest feeling you get,
if you experience about 50 persons sitting in a kitchen room taking
their meal silently and not speakig to each other.

It is hard to lean this and not ask somebody something during this time
or speak to somebody...

[f_dyne]

I have nothing to say for or against Methernitha.
I asked them if I could go to know them and see the machine and they refused.
No problem for me, their choice.
Baumann gave us one important message anyway: there can be 'free energy', and I would like to thank him for this if it's true.
In the meanwhile maybe I reversed the principle.

Here, english:
http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/testatpu.html

Here, an italian explanation by words:
http://energierinnovabili.forumcommunity.net/?t=2829236&st=30

Good luck,

F_dyne

[doyouknowyourdead]

thanks for the discussion, particularly to hartiberlin. we still plan to get back in touch with Mr. Bosshard, but if he refused showing the Testatika in 89 and also now in 08, it seems like we will only be able to speculate from the outside for ever. how can we lobby these people? we agree that it seems inhumane or "unchristian" and also egocentric to withhold free energy. to that end, we should be telling them this and lobbying fullstop until something gives. so
a) what is the consensus, does it work or is it a mind control myth?
b) if it is agreed that it does exist, how can we convince methernitha to share it, short of sending a guerilla army???   

[hartiberlin]

I think as long as Mr.Bosshard and Mr. Baumann rule the Methernitha community, nothing will change.
There are still other nice people who live there and are more open, but I guess they either dont know the full secret or are sworded not to speak about it by Bosshard?s and Baumann?s command.

I think one can only learn by reverse engineer a self built Wimhurst machine and use the High voltage high frequency discharges to pulse light radioactive mountain crystals to excite it and release more beta radiation which is then captured in the Leyden jars.
This is the most logical explanation how the Testatika works.
All other methods would not deliver this huge amount of power relative to its size
and Bosshard always told me, that the secret lies in the used minerals.

[Rosphere]

Before one can apply conservation of energy laws to any thing, one must define the system.  Purely mechanical systems are easy to define because everything is visible.  We can not, however, so easily define an 'electric, magnetic, radiant--plasma' type of system because much of what happens is unseen.  Unlike purely mechanical systems, the process of having a look will impart some changes upon the system itself.

Any machine that appears to be violating the CoE laws, is only interacting with the surroundings in a way that we do not yet fully understand.  Maybe it was properly grounding, instead of balancing, all of our closed electrical circuits in the past that caused them to behave like mechanical system analogues with regard to energy usage.  Our defined system for 'free energy' devices is incomplete; our cosmology may be flawed for such high energy open loop systems.  Tapping energy from the vacuum sounds plausible from a quantum mechanical point of view, anyway, (show me a system at rest.)

Given all that, a claim of an actual working free vacuum energy device today is, by our everyday experience, a fantastic claim.  Fantastic claims require fantastic proof.  I will be so happy and grateful when we finally receive both of these things in a simple, easily replicate-able device.

Once free energy is truly free then the free-energy despots will lose their iron-grip of control in their little worlds and we can finally have a decent dinner conversation.

Cheers!