Meyer HV Sync-Wave (HV Water Fracturing)

[zerotensor]

Hi Zero, can you explain or expand on this statement:

You do it with a large, short-lived electric field

How do you think this works?
What is the reaction taking place? 
How can you get gaseous molecules of H2 and O2 from ionisation without the interaction of electrons and the ions?

Well, you can't. My point is, you don't need current to make it happen.
The way I see it, the electrons "go into solution", and are not consumed in a current.  The electric field provides enough energy to disassociate the electrons from the molecule, but is so short-lived that no appreciable current is induced.  The left-over electrons, now hanging-out in the vicinity of the ion mixture, are more than happy to facilitate molecular rearrangement in the reaction 2H₂O -> 2e^- + 2H₂ + 2O⁺ -> H₂ +O₂.  In conventional electrolysis, a current of electrons in an electrolyte mixture causes collisions which ionize the water molecules and initiate the reactions, but here, we use voltage (i.e. a large electric field) to do the job on pure water, without asking any electrons to go very far.

[Farrah Day]

Hi Zero

You have some things in your previous post that need to be addressed. You stated:

In conventional electrolysis, a current of electrons in an electrolyte mixture causes collisions which ionize the water molecules and initiate the reactions, but here, we use voltage (i.e. a large electric field) to do the job on pure water, without asking any electrons to go very far.

However, this is incorrect. Water is not ionised by collisions and electrons are not the current carriers in liquids.

Ions carry the charges in a liquid, and it is these charge carrying ions that collide with other ions and molecules on their way to the electrodes that create heat.  Not until these ions reach the electrodes does water itself ionise, and it does so because at the electrodes water is more electrochemically reactive than the charge carrying ions. Hence the charge carrying ions (the electrolyte) only serve to initiate ionisation and take no part in the final reaction.

What we are trying to achieve is to find another way of initiating the ionisation of water without any the ion charge carriers.

If we place our cell in deionised water and apply a voltage across it, little if any current flows, which is good. But we have no electrolysis taking place and hence no gas.

The point is, in this scenario, we have a decent capacitor and a build up of at the electrodes.  All we need to do to get gas is to get the water to react with the charges on the electrodes - to ionise.  We have all the pieces in place, but we need to somehow initiate the reaction.  Too much applied voltage will simply break down the dielectric properties of the water an give us a massive current surge as the electrodes arc; this is not what we want.  The answer is not simply high voltage.

The question for me is: are we trying to discover and create a completely new method of water ionisation, or are we simply performing and ultra-efficient form of standard electrolysis?

[HeairBear]

Dogs, I did a similar test for the voltage sync-pulse without a ground to the water which failed. second test with ground to the water worked. Maybe you can try it and tell us your results.



HairBear

[h20power]

We are trying to do electrolysis a different way, think of it as voltage dissoation of water. The aim is to creat a stronger electrical field than the one that holds the bonds together in a water molecule. Daniel Dingle too has done it, but the IMF and World Banks is stopping him from getting it out. Interesting note on the grounding of the water, something I have not tried yet. The circuit I am currently building has veriable voltage going too the FETs from 0-120 volts DC. That way once I hit resonance I can take the voltage up and see just how much gas this type of system can produce per minute. I will be limited to aproximently 30k volts anything higher will cook the diodes. I also took out the blocking diode and put a voltage multiplyer in it's place just like Dr. Dingle. I am using the skin effect to take out the current in the choke coils and also using a solid bar and tube. The idea again is too take advatage of the skin effect, Once the WFC is built I will start the testing. I am also using a water flow pump just like Meyers pumped the water too the injectors. The new WFC will have constant water level, full positive and negetive isolation, and I can put on a fillter if I deem it nessary.

It has taken me sometime to come up with the right design for the WFC but this time I think I got it . Matching the chokes to the WFC is what is changing for me at times. And building the transformer the same looking as Meyers in the technical breif. I also will make the air conditioner for the incoming air.  Only time will tell if I get this thing working right. I think we need from 10L/min and up for an ICE. I am planning on doing it Meyers old way, or the way Dr. Dingle has done it using vacuum too draw in the Oxy/Hydro mixture with solindoid controled injectors.
I went back to Meyers old way for I just couldn't always make since of the injector technology. Seems at that point he was really hiding things, so secretive he was. Oh an I can have it set up to have 3 phases with the electronics. What do you guys think?

[Dogs]

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