My question for detractors of overunity

[PolyMatrix]

Get the oddest feeling that you did not listen carefully to the lecture by Tom Valone and try to comprehend what he was doing in that lecture and your last reply tends to confirm the this. [Edit -one before last]

I am aware of the saying 'a person convinced against their will remains unconvinced still.'

Again I begin to think that the line of your posts are tending to follow this latter notion.

Your ability to remain focused on facts is admirable. I however tend to look at things in an associative way and so see a relationship between my origional question and ZPE.

Substantive Experiments

I should also list the following US patents as the most significant in ZPE research: "Rectifying Thermal Electric Noise" by Charles Brown #3890161, and #4704622 by Capasso, which actually acknowledge ZPE for their functional nature. Capasso is an IBM engineer and indicates that his tunneling device only works if ZPE is present, much like what Planck discovered and Koch recently detected in the lab. I tend to recommend metal-metal nanodiodes probably will be a popular brand for ZPE usage with millipore sheet assembly. I also cite the work of Yasamoto, et. Al. (2004, Science, 304:1944) covering peptide molecular photodiodes just 1 nm across -- another example of a molecular tool for studying this zero point energy that shows up on the molecular level.

*Now to answer your question:* YES, these diodes demonstrate substantive, greater than uncertainty generation of energy from ZPE. In fact, simple coils do as well! Don't believe me? Check out the frenzy of activity that I cite concerning Puthoff's right hand man, Dr. Eric Davis, as well as Prof. Christian Beck overseas. Both of them finally woke up to the multiple papers that Koch published years ago

[PolyMatrix]

Your topic:

• My question for detractors of overunity

was followed by a post with one quesiton in it:

• So why can we not consider using the energy that is making the universe expand and change the name of that energy into um ââ,¬Ëœfree energyââ,¬â,,¢?

Your answer is that you can consider using any energy that exists and also you can call it what ever you want.

My question is, "when are you planning on doing that?"


Bessler007
mib HQ

Answer: Already do call energy whatever I want. As you can see from my origional post energy is not defined by the name we give it but by the observations on the way things move.

[Edit]After thought - I should also like to thank you for taking the time to discus this with me.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Hey Bess, this guy is just messin with your head, the best way to stop overunity projects is not co convince people they can't, it is to convince youthat they are on your side then add heaps more confusing rubbish to the mix, talk of universe expansion and like rubbish is for philosophers of what if, not science or engineers.

For the loop who started this thread, I will give you all the energy in action you need from the universe to start your hypothetical experiment.

A stick/pole facing vertical
two ring magnets

place the two magnets on the pole north facing north.

you can now sit and watch the gravity of the planet try to pull the top ring down, whilst the magnetic field of the lower repells against the planet itself and wins.

There is an exchange of energy that is constant and free, Sit and watch until either the magnet or planet dies, or until you work out how to harness that simple energy right in front of you.

Call us when your done.

[PolyMatrix]

@Eskimo

Sure can try do that if you can tell me how to measure the WORK that set up is doing.

[PolyMatrix]

In other words Eskimo in order to harness energy not only must one object be moving relative to another but they must also transfer some of their source of movement to another object. If that can be observed and measured with or without affecting the transfer of movement of the two objects then we (in theory!) can harness that movement.

Oh look I just restated the electromagnetic 'left hand rule' and the notion that we live in a relativistic universe.

[Edit - and Heisenberg uncertainty principle as the taking of measurement has to account for how that measurement affects what is being measured]