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DEBATE THREAD

Started by Bruce_TPU, January 19, 2008, 11:07:48 PM

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tinu

Quote from: DA on January 28, 2008, 09:40:55 AM
  By "big oil"?    Of course I think this is ridiculous, but ....


Nice ricochet!
I wonder if it was it from the ground and what if not.

Omnibus

@DQ (aka @modervador),

Stop insulting me by ignoring my argument and substituting it by spewing stupidities. You're waging an ad hominem attack at me by continuously cluttering this and other threads with semi-truths and outright lies. This should stop or it will get ugly.  I have no friends but the truth and anyone such as you abusing the truth is my enemy.

RunningBare

@DA, psychopath,Bessler, tinu

Today I acquire 4 powerful bar magnets, and so begins my journey into the world of smot, it does have some interesting features such as the ball dropping out of the magnetic field due to gravity.

I'm going to rigorously prove that I can power my pedalec with smot 

On a serious note, magnets are fun to play with!

DA

Quote from: Omnibus on January 28, 2008, 10:40:36 AM
@DQ (aka @modervador),

Stop insulting me by ignoring my argument and substituting it by spewing stupidities. You're waging an ad hominem attack at me by continuously cluttering this and other threads with semi-truths and outright lies. This should stop or it will get ugly.  I have no friends but the truth and anyone such as you abusing the truth is my enemy.

Ok, that's 20 out of 107.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: Omnibus on January 28, 2008, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: Bessler007 on January 28, 2008, 04:22:41 AM
psychopath,

The SMOT is a pendulum action where the ball falls into a magnetic field then out of it with the assistance of gravity.  Any energy the ball gains by magnetism is lost when gravity pulls it out of the magnetism.  With gravity's assistance the ball repays the magnet for the energy it added to it, less friction and other losses.

This is interesting.  A series of magnets add to the kinetic energy of the ball and gravity only has to overcome the magnetism of the final (few?) magnets.  Even at that there isn't sufficient energy in the ball to return to the gravitational potential it left from.

I think even as an overunity device the SMOT is a poor example.

Bessler007
Cmdr, BHS
mib HQ
This is an ad hominem attack.

Stop insulting me by ignoring my argument without any basis and substituting it by complete nonsense.

SMOT isn't a pendulum. In SMOT, according to the analysis I present, the input energy (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) imparted to the ball is less than the energy which the ball loses when it returns to its initial state. This is a clear violation of CoE. This argument you must not ignore and if you continue to ignore it I'd ask Stefan to ban you for continuous ad hominem attack. This is too much.

Before accusing people of ad hominem attacks you should perhaps find out what an ad hominem attack is. Don't quote Latin if you don't know what it means.

"Your argument is worthless" is NOT an ad hominem attack, "You are worthless" is.

Perhaps you are clever enough to see the difference.

Hans von Lieven
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