DEBATE THREAD

[PolyMatrix]

@Bessler007

The 'geek' factor as you call it is controlled mostly by the need to generate something that is marketable. That means that there is a requirement to justify putting money into the research. There is very little research done on the basis of 'fun' as self-funded individuals or part-time amateurs mostly do that research.

How many 'geeks' are looking into ways of encouraging useful tree growth in the rain forests? How many 'geeks' are making sure that the bio-chemical 'discoveries' that plants already use are not being lost due to extinction? How many engineers and chemists are researching ways to recover the waste products we create.

Why can I not find evidence that the Joe cell does not work?

[supersam]

@polymatrix,

i have never said that, people are not looking, you are an example of one that is looking.  you are veryy rare in this world!  please keep up the good work that you do for us!!  you are very important to our future!!!!

can't you see this?  you are the future of mankind!!  please understand this and work for mankinds development outside of political, social, and economic and religious boundaries!!!!  to do any less is genoside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol
sam

ps:  or to coin a phrase, "SPECIEOSIDE"  meaning EXTINCTION FOR THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE"!!!!!!

[Bessler007]

PolyMatrix,


I've found most looking into fe/ou are hoping to hit the mother lode.

Fundamental research happens at the university level all the time.  Lucent or formerly Bell Labs did research beyond any university in the world.  They would investigate ideas with no clue of commercial applications.

The purpose of fundamental research is to understand the nature of reality to the highest degree possible.  Some of Bell Lab's work was entirely theoretical looking purely at ideas.

DARPA has PhD's  coming and going at all hours of the day and night.  If a scientist has an idea and needs to access their lab at 2am they drive to it, go through human security then pass several biometric access points just to get to their lab and check an idea.  That happens very often.

People looking at the fundamental nature of reality eat, breath, drink and sleep in that world.  They're intense.  They can devour reams of technical literature quicker than you could go through a bowl of pudding then cite the page where an idea was.

When you make the point:

• That means that there is a requirement to justify putting money into the research.

I totally disagree with it.  Companies need to carry out fundamental research to remain competitive.



Bessler007

edit:  I thought about this as I read it and I'd have to say I don't totally disagree with the point.  The requirement to justify research would be some basis in a reality that some very intense people imagine reality to be.

[PolyMatrix]

@Bessler007

Things I have noticed about PhD's and very intelligent people is that
A) Sometimes they find it difficult to be both practical and inventive.
B) They find it difficult to uncompartmentalise their knowledge (take an idea from any subject and try to fit it in other subjects)
C) They never question why the world social and economic situation is such a mess.
D) Very few will challenge and test what is obviously unbelievable just for the fun of it.

[PolyMatrix]

This is fun:

Professor Searl on the SEG magnetic motor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gRnzI2os0&feature=user

Explaining how the laws of Newton are being broken.