DEBATE THREAD

[hoptoad]

Seriously, Omnibus has referred to his proof of overunity many times, and I really would like to read it.  I do have a degree in Mathematics, so proofs do interest me.  I probably would not understand it completely, but I would like to read it.  Probably because of my lack of search skill, I have been unable to find it.  If anyone can give me a link to it, and to his video demonstration, I would really appreciate it.  I do want to correlate the proof with the video example.
DA

@DA - You're obviously referring to Omni-bullshits pathetic video where he shows a ball bearing being drawn up a ramp by a magnet, and he uses a ruler showing the height above the table at one end and then the other to show that indeed the ramp is sloping in an upward incline. Wow!    A magnet pulls a ball up a ramp (after he has placed it into position with his hand), then proceeds to fall off the ramp into a bowl. After which he picks up the ball with his hand and tries it all over again.

Then he obsessively claims that this is proof of O/U - Duh! 

All it proves is what science already knows. That magnets can attract a steel ball, and that the potential energy imparted in the first place by his hand, combined with the magnetic potential of the ramp, gives the ball enough momentum to proceed past the sticking point at the end and fall off the ramp and continue with the aid of gravity. But the ball never once has enough excess kinetic energy to lift itself back onto the ramp (unaided by his hand) to complete a single loop, let alone loop continuously.

Omni-bullshit tries to get around this with the words "discontinuous excess energy", which is a furfy, since any excess energy in the first place would contribute to the ball's ability to return to the exact starting point and loop all over again. After all, the losses though friction from a solid steel ball on a solid surface over the distances involved would be so miniscule, that they could be treated as non existent for the purposes of the experiment involved.

Even if his theory is correct, (which it isn't),  if the amount of "discontinuous excess energy" is so feeble that the ball cannot return to the beginning of the ramp, and hence form a loop, then what is the point of the entire exercise, (and subsequent debate)  when the main objective of the majority of forums members is to extract usable energy for practical purposes.

The only usable energy from Omni-bullshit regarding the SMOT, is all the hot air he would expire if this were an audible forum instead of a written one.

The only loop that is ever complete is Omni-bullshits loopy theory. Even if the theory were somehow correct, which it isn't, it wouldn't be the first theory that is self evident in theory (and it isn't) but has no actual basis in reality, and it will probably not be the last.

[PolyMatrix]

Where do you start to calculate the amount of energy into a system and similarly the amount out?

Do we start with the big bang, if that is the accepted theory of the creation of the universe?

What is the accepted way that physics experiments start and end these calculations?

[tinu]

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I am looking forward to seeing the Omnibus replication.  We know he can do videos, as we saw with his proof of overunity video.  I can't find the link to that video at the moment, but it was very enlightening!  And don't forget, Omnibus is the only human to show a definite unequivicable PROOF of overunity.  I haven't seen this proof yet, but I still search for it every single day.  I must have pissed him off, as he hasn't posted a link to the proof for me yet, but I'm sure he will soon.
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Seriously, Omnibus has referred to his proof of overunity many times, and I really would like to read it.  I do have a degree in Mathematics, so proofs do interest me.  I probably would not understand it completely, but I would like to read it.  Probably because of my lack of search skill, I have been unable to find it.  If anyone can give me a link to it, and to his video demonstration, I would really appreciate it.  I do want to correlate the proof with the video example.

DA

Omnibus indeed has referred to his proof of CoE violation many times (maybe too many times but that?s just my opinion) and I was also looking for that proof for quite a long time until I concluded there is none. Consequently, a long discussion was provoked and you can see its outcome (and the answer you look for) at http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3417.0/topicseen.html
It started about OC MPMM but then it completely shifted to SMOT.

Please post your views on SMOT into that thread.
Although my mind is made on the subject (and it happened with quite a great disappointment, I?d say), I?ll look forward to read your comments.

Cheers,
Tinu

[Low-Q]

Come on Running Bear, your rep is certainly NOT a piece of junk.  I am looking forward to seeing the Omnibus replication.  We know he can do videos, as we saw with his proof of overunity video.  I can't find the link to that video at the moment, but it was very enlightening!  And don't forget, Omnibus is the only human to show a definite unequivicable PROOF of overunity.  I haven't seen this proof yet, but I still search for it every single day.  I must have pissed him off, as he hasn't posted a link to the proof for me yet, but I'm sure he will soon.

Let's give Omnibus a break.  We all know he is unbelieveable rude and inconsiderate at times, but this is common when dealing with a genius.  I'm sure we will learn much when he does have time to post a video of his replication.  He is just waiting for the proper magnets and bearings I believe.  He was in on this from the start, so it should not be long before we see his video.  I just hope it is as illuminating as his SMOT video!

DA

I'm an experimenter not a diplomat 

But I'm certain if Omni can give it, he has no problem in taking it.

good, I'm glad your not a diplomat.  That's like a politician, isn't it?  I have scant use for politicians.

Seriously, Omnibus has referred to his proof of overunity many times, and I really would like to read it. I do have a degree in Mathematics, so proofs do interest me.  I probably would not understand it completely, but I would like to read it.  Probably because of my lack of search skill, I have been unable to find it.  If anyone can give me a link to it, and to his video demonstration, I would really appreciate it.  I do want to correlate the proof with the video example.

DA

Hi,

Omnibus hasn't prooved anything yet. There is a lot of math which prooves violation of CoE, but the math is not complete, so what's the point? To determind a loop, you cannot pick a few points in the loop, calculate the average, and claim violation of CoE.

I however are looking forward to see a replication of a SMOT that violate CoE.

Vidar

[tinu]

I?m sorry but the math DOES NOT prove CoE violation. This must be a misinterpretation or a misunderstanding because the equations already posted actually disprove CoE violation without any doubt whatsoever.

Thanks,
Tinu