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My s1r9a9m9 replication!

Started by Super God, January 23, 2008, 07:26:21 PM

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Super God

Diodes are here, tomorrow we do some wiring.  Things are looking good, thanks to a very generous individual who donated an inverter for my experiments!  Wow!  I'm glad there are others looking into this technology too!
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Farlander

Keep up the good work Super God, I'm extremely interested in the results as s1r9's design was one I contemplated building too.  And watch out for the feds!

Super God

I don't know why the government would want to go out of their way to stop me from doing this.  After all, it certainly is not illegal and I have broken no laws converting my truck.  But, if it does happen I have a backup plan ;)

By the way, the inverter is in transit so I'm going to get a box to wire everything together tomorrow.
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raburgeson

Well if it doesn't work hang onto the engine, it's still very useful. Straight inline sixes are great for hydrogen fuel work. In the engine compartment they give you room to mount circuits and hardware you create. The trouble with 4 cylinder projects is most 4 cylinder vehicles are under powered to begin with. There is no power overlap in a 4 banger. I have a small 4 cylinder pickup, ( large 4) and it probably is almost as big an air pump as your six. On gasoline it gives some vibration and is underpowered. It's not the setup that's prime for hydrogen experimentation. I measured the engine compartment and it is to short to take a straight six. As you can tell I've already considered it. 

suckapunks

supergod.  after learning of this topic a few months back i have been reading as much as i can on the subject including the current camaro replication.  after reading his plans again along with others work i will summarize his concept as utilizing an A/C inverted 120V setup without an electrolytic cell to generate a powerful spark that energizes micron sized water droplets in the chamber which instantly converts the water to thermal explosive energy.  i will come back to this later.

Stan Meyers created a fuel cell that after closer inspection has three primary functions: 1 it electrolyzes water, 2-the gases are ionized using bifilar coils and UV energy (laser) and 3-introduces micron sized water droplets into the piston chamber and then utilizes a potent spark to ignite the contents therein.  He also siphons off electrons to keep the plasma charged. 

Herman Anderson created several water cars.  in his latest iteration he produced a specially designed spark plug.  while his latest car ran on H2 and not an electrolytic cell, the big deal about his work was that he developed a hollow cell similar in appearance to Meyers.  at the top he positioned a modified spark plug to generate a potent spark with the electrode running through the center of this tube and residing in the piston chamber.  an inlet port was located in the middle of the tube where H2 gas was introduced and allowed to mix with air on it?s way directly into the piston chamber.  he and Meyers both had direct injection modified spark plug units.  anderson?s unit would allow hydrogen to enter along with ambient air, a fine mist of micron sized water droplets and a spark of up to 70Kv.

now.  to keep this as straightforward as i can about successful water cars in general and this is abbreviated.  the key as it relates to your project is in number 5.

1   electrolysis alone, it seems, is generally accepted as being insufficient to power a combustion engine beyond that of a small lawnmower.  even with a pulse generator to increase production, this appears to be insufficient to power a car motor.
2   hydrogen is a tiny molecule and suffers from having a low mass energy density.  hydrocarbon molecules are huge in comparison and their density is sufficient to move the internal workings of a motor.  hydrogen is so light it cannot do so as effectively.  this is why we hear rumors of hydrogen car conversions feeling like they have less or half power.
3   electromagnetism is a recurring theme in each of the successful water car examples with the exception of ?S1r9a9m9?.  this concept of electromagnetism is important because the ionizing of a gas is creating a plasma.  this conversion to the fourth state of matter creates more deuterium (D2) and a more powerful combustion than standard combustion of gases alone.  deuterium has an added neutron making the atom twice as dense as hydrogen.  plasma is a key element in the process as the added power of the gas now compensates for the lack of production ability of plain electrolysis.
4   ionizing or making hydrogen plasma can be accomplished in several ways, IR, UV, X-ray, microwaves and others.  the key frequency for each method is documented in research briefs around the net.  microwaves were mentioned previously, UV happens around 195nm and above.  the excitation frequency for x-rays, gamma rays, etc i haven?t bothered to investigate as they are not practical for the average Joe to dabble with.
5   the high power spark is necessary to ignite hydrogen and deuterium.  i have come to discover this is also critical for another function utilized by Meyers, Anderson and S1r9a9m9.  the spark is generally in the vicinity of 40-70Kv.  What is important with this detail and why Meyers and Anderson inject water directly into the chamber along with S1r9a9m9 using water exclusively is that the extremely high voltage causes the water to instantly steam and ?explode? although it does not combust.  this process produces an enormous expansion of the water as it heats and it does so with greater force than the combustion of gasoline. 

now i mention all this to say, while i'm not familiar with everything this guy S1r9a9m9 has done because his plans are so cryptic and unprofessional, it seems some of his procedures are not necessary today.  in 1999 a guy named bebich was granted a patent for a super spark plug capable of delivering up to 100 volts if i'm not mistaken.  patent number 6,581,581.  this aside, modern manufacturers use high voltage sparks now.  and there is a company you can locate online at www.pulstarplug.com that produces 100kv plugs that may work for you as well.

just wanted to bring this all to your attention and hope it works for you.  give them a try.  if the spark creates the thermal explosive energy needed to run the car, then that's a big deal.  second, if the power isn't so great, you can always add a cell afterwards.  the hydrogen would only help in the combustion process.  but to really get the power you want, you need plasma or charged/ionized gas.  to get this, you need additional energy and there is plenty of reading material out there with the details.

keep us posted dude.  and good luck.
suckapunks