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My s1r9a9m9 replication!

Started by Super God, January 23, 2008, 07:26:21 PM

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capacitor70

Running bike on water

I have tried my 14 tube HHO generator with four different Engines.
1. 2 stroke 80 CC bike engine works fine. Uncontrolled accelleration.
2. 2 Stroke 35 CC Engine. could not start at same gas production.
3. 4 Stroke Engine 80CC Engine not working at all.
4. 4 Stroke 125CC Bike every time back fire could not strat.

I have modified spark plug for 4 stroke engine, Its not working please give me suggestion
Photos of spark plug

Brass on the side is NRV (Non return valve)

Please run my 4 stroke engine ???

My observation with two strke bike runs becouse of exhaust gas mix with hydrogen
and due to this slow burning may be. ???

With 35 CC engine we have not used gasoline at all so there may be no cabon inside

22350

Quote from: capacitor70 on June 06, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
Running bike on water

I have tried my 14 tube HHO generator with four different Engines.
1. 2 stroke 80 CC bike engine works fine. Uncontrolled accelleration.
2. 2 Stroke 35 CC Engine. could not start at same gas production.
3. 4 Stroke Engine 80CC Engine not working at all.
4. 4 Stroke 125CC Bike every time back fire could not strat.

I have modified spark plug for 4 stroke engine, Its not working please give me suggestion
Photos of spark plug

Brass on the side is NRV (Non return valve)

UPDATE!!!

I understand what that piece is.  It is a plug saver.  Designed to keep plugs from fouling in engines that are burning oil.  Is that right??

Please run my 4 stroke engine ???

My observation with two strke bike runs becouse of exhaust gas mix with hydrogen
and due to this slow burning may be. ???

With 35 CC engine we have not used gasoline at all so there may be no cabon inside


That's quite a nice bit of engineering.  Did you machine that yourself?

how are you metering the HHO supply to that device?

What shape of spark are you getting in that tip?  I don't understand how that tip generates a spark.

Can you do a quick video of that unit connected to a running car (out of the engine) and show us how it is firing?

What is going on with your intake track on these engines, when you are running your fuel into this unit?

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UPDATE!!

I understand what that is.  It is a plug saver, designed to keep plugs from fouling in oil burning engines.  Very clever.

You might consider machining off that end cap, as you don't need to shield the plug end from oil.

22350

My though is that you need some sort of solenoid to inject your gas.  Just allowing it to leak in is too inconsistent.

Did you retard the timing on your 4 strokes?

How much gas is you cell producing?


Creativity

Quote from: capacitor70 on June 06, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
Running bike on water

I have tried my 14 tube HHO generator with four different Engines.
1. 2 stroke 80 CC bike engine works fine. Uncontrolled accelleration.
2. 2 Stroke 35 CC Engine. could not start at same gas production.
3. 4 Stroke Engine 80CC Engine not working at all.
4. 4 Stroke 125CC Bike every time back fire could not strat.

I have modified spark plug for 4 stroke engine, Its not working please give me suggestion
Photos of spark plug

Brass on the side is NRV (Non return valve)

Please run my 4 stroke engine ???

My observation with two strke bike runs becouse of exhaust gas mix with hydrogen
and due to this slow burning may be. ???

With 35 CC engine we have not used gasoline at all so there may be no cabon inside


can u explain how u use this setup? do u inject water with this plug?or is is used to draw HHO?
I would strongly not recommend using water drawn with fuel in 2 stroker.In 2 stroker charge (air fuel) travels through the crank case,if u add water here ,corrosion of ball bearings is sure and engine will need rebuild(i was working before with 2 stroker cross motorbikes,if they stay outside too long,water condensation in crank case is sure...for winter i runned them first with very much of oil so to assure the crank case will have enough oil to prevent from rusting). If u use this spark plug to inject water with it (and also generate spark) it is a cool idea! In your shoes i would first run engine without any additions,when it is hot start injecting what u want.In that case u give enough thermal energy to evaporate water.Try with a spark that is hotter(smaller number rating),it will be cooled by water anyhow.I guess u get just the water cloaging the spark and loosing the spark.
4 stroker runs cooler than 2 stroker,so again i guess u have not enough heat to evaporate water u r introducing(try hotter spark plug!)

I am preatty sure u draw not enough HHO through this tiny holes if its just by piston suction only.Back fire is a signal of lean mixture or maybe u have waste spark?(what engine r u testing)

i wait for ur response on the working of ur system so i can give some possible causes of problems.
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capacitor70

That's quite a nice bit of engineering.  Did you machine that yourself?
No, I have only designed it.
how are you metering the HHO supply to that device?
HHO supply is given from NRV, so that high temprature spark can be used to burn lean mixture of HHO and air.
No gasoline or other fuel. Air intake is in controle. The reson for this spark plug is When I mix little air with HHO engine spark
plug is inefficient. See my WFC and Engine Fundamental Video on Youtube "Capacitor70"


What shape of spark are you getting in that tip?  I don't understand how that tip generates a spark.
Its not generating spark it generated HHO flame 3000 Deg. C like HHO torch for very short period 

Can you do a quick video of that unit connected to a running car (out of the engine) and show us how it is firing?
It gives flame like four HHO torch

What is going on with your intake track on these engines, when you are running your fuel into this unit?
I am not inserting fuel at all, Intetake is only air. in the piston chamber lean mixture of HHO+air and at spark plug tip it is pure HHO

My though is that you need some sort of solenoid to inject your gas.  Just allowing it to leak in is too inconsistent.
Same thing i will try when I get some budget. See HAJI system (Hydrogen jet ignition)

Did you retard the timing on your 4 strokes?
Yes, See WFC and Engine fundamentals for simple circuit of engine timing modification, this circuit can be adjested at
any possition and very very simple works nice


How much gas is you cell producing?
I have not measured it, But it is sufficient to run bike at 10Km/Hr, conclusion from running 2 Stroke 80CC bike (uncontrolled acceleration)