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Just spin, or do work? That is the question.

Started by AB Hammer, January 25, 2008, 01:23:56 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: Nutcake on January 25, 2008, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
@tinu,

You?re not qualified to advise on these matters because you?ve shown embarrassing misunderstanding of elementary physics, let alone that you can?t in any way vow that such motors haven?t existed throughout history. You?ve heard this here and there but you aren?t actually privy as to whether that?s true or false. Further, implying that @alsetalokin?s device runs on an external power source which he hasn?t identified is obviously frivolous let alone it also implies that @alsetalokin is being fraudulent. Semi-educated people such as you should be advised to restrain from expressing their unqualified opinions in forums such as this because they clutter it and make the substantial findings sink into the swamp of incompetence.

Omnibus

Please stop cluttering the thread with your insults on other members.
please comment on the point not the person.
On the contrary, when the person is impudently abusing the freedom of the net he must be told so. It's a greater abuse to be confused and to impudently impose your confusion on other after the issue has been commented numerous times and is settled than to be told to restrain from posting nonsense.

If you're so sensitive, however, you may not read the exchange.

tinu

Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
Quote from: tinu on January 25, 2008, 07:11:00 PM
@omnibus,

You really need to prove my point above, don?t you?

In A the ball has plenty of potential energy (Ma).
Ma is not zero and it can not be zero since you already has chosen Mc=0.
This Ma potential energy, if you need to be educated, is due to SMOT position; when you are done with SMOT (I doubt you will ever be but lets assume for a second) and decide to put it back to its place and the ball elsewhere, you spend Ma Joules every time. So, this is not unaccounted, neither is Mb.

I doubt you can understand it since you made such gaffes in the past and keep continuing like a broken robot. But I don?t care anymore. You had your chance. Now I definitely made my mind, I do not consider you have much if anything of relevance to say  to me and I?m done with you. This is the third time I say it. I don?t want to say it again. Got it now?

Tinu

No, no. I'm talking about the energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) which isn't at point A as you incorrectly understand. You're confused and it's better not to continue because discussing it with you won't lead to anything of substance but will only serve to clarify your confusion. You should clarify confusion of this type only by yourself without bothering other people.

You talk nonsense as usual but, at your own choice, the news is that to me you are really stupid.

Let me put it this way: there are +8k members here. Talk to somebody else, moron.
Can?t you understand that much?

Omnibus

The greatest insult and ad hominem attack is to deliberately ignore the arguments of your opponent and push incessantly obvious incompetence. That must not be tolerated by anyone who cares about scientific truth and should be vigorously confronted.

Omnibus

Quote from: tinu on January 25, 2008, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
Quote from: tinu on January 25, 2008, 07:11:00 PM
@omnibus,

You really need to prove my point above, don?t you?

In A the ball has plenty of potential energy (Ma).
Ma is not zero and it can not be zero since you already has chosen Mc=0.
This Ma potential energy, if you need to be educated, is due to SMOT position; when you are done with SMOT (I doubt you will ever be but lets assume for a second) and decide to put it back to its place and the ball elsewhere, you spend Ma Joules every time. So, this is not unaccounted, neither is Mb.

I doubt you can understand it since you made such gaffes in the past and keep continuing like a broken robot. But I don?t care anymore. You had your chance. Now I definitely made my mind, I do not consider you have much if anything of relevance to say  to me and I?m done with you. This is the third time I say it. I don?t want to say it again. Got it now?

Tinu

No, no. I'm talking about the energy (mgh1 + mgh2 + Kc) which isn't at point A as you incorrectly understand. You're confused and it's better not to continue because discussing it with you won't lead to anything of substance but will only serve to clarify your confusion. You should clarify confusion of this type only by yourself without bothering other people.

You talk nonsense as usual but, at your own choice, the news is that to me you are really stupid.

Let me put it this way: there are +8k members here. Talk to somebody else, moron.
Can?t you understand that much?
Everyone who knows a little Physics 101 knows that you're the stupid one. Semi-educated arrogant slob.

Omnibus

Those concerned with ad hominem attacks should note who starts them first. Anyone such as @tinu who finds himself in the corner behaves like that.