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Just spin, or do work? That is the question.

Started by AB Hammer, January 25, 2008, 01:23:56 PM

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AB Hammer

 I have seen allot of magnet motors and possible magnet motors. But I have never seen any of them do anything but spin. A friend of mine challenged me to rebuild a magnet motor that I did back in the 70's that I did for a science class in school. Well I got it to spin until my cardboard waller ed in the middle and then it stuck to the side between two of the outer magnets, but I still got an A. I don't truly recall any of them under a load but one, that I know of and it only lasted a short time and quit.

So back to the topic. Do they just spin or can they do work and prove it? This is my question.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

tinu

If I remember correctly you have asked the same question a while ago and I kindly asked you to directly show or otherwise to provide a clear link/evidence for such a spinning magnetic motor.
(Accept my apologies in advance if I made a confusion).

The issue is quite simple imho: there is no perpetual magnetic spinning motor.
If it was, it would have long and dramatically changed the actual science because continual (perpetual) spinning equals work against friction and other losses and it does not matter how small these are, it would still be a ground shaking device.

Remember that, since the oldest times, people of all kind (philosophers, priests, scientists, cons, amateurs, nuts, sailors, workers, technicians, you name them) were playing with magnets. Only legends survived about magnetic motors and we have all reasonable rational reasons to conclude that magnetic motors do not work. Steorn is just a recent and over advertised name on that list of legends. Bedini had (maybe he still has) similar but untrue claims on his web-page about a magnetic motor. (I am 100% confident that Al will soon take his place too into the same category if he fails to identify the outside source of energy for his motor if it indeed works as shown.)
Besides history, science also clearly shows that perpetual magnetic motors can not possibly work. Regardless, swirling magnets around is considered fun and it is actually very attractive to many people. Probably billions will continue to do it and learn interesting lessons along the process. It?s just the delusion I try to prevent and the manipulation I fight against.

Do the above respond to your question?

Tinu

Omnibus

@tinu,

You?re not qualified to advise on these matters because you?ve shown embarrassing misunderstanding of elementary physics, let alone that you can?t in any way vow that such motors haven?t existed throughout history. You?ve heard this here and there but you aren?t actually privy as to whether that?s true or false. Further, implying that @alsetalokin?s device runs on an external power source which he hasn?t identified is obviously frivolous let alone it also implies that @alsetalokin is being fraudulent. Semi-educated people such as you should be advised to restrain from expressing their unqualified opinions in forums such as this because they clutter it and make the substantial findings sink into the swamp of incompetence.

AB Hammer

I can only quote what I have seen and done. My experiment worked back thin, and I have been racking my brain on how I did it. I remember 12 magnets on the outside and 4 possibly 6 but I think 4 on the inside. I know I left a fair distance between inner and outer magnets and the inner didn't go that fast and it was a little jerky. I also remember setting each magnet individually to get the center past each spot. This is all I can remember. If it helps somebody good. But I would have to see one do work to look at it as more than a toy.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

tinu

Quote from: Omnibus on January 25, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
@tinu,

You?re not qualified to advise on these matters because you?ve shown embarrassing misunderstanding of elementary physics, let alone that you can?t in any way vow that such motors haven?t existed throughout history. You?ve heard this here and there but you aren?t actually privy as to whether that?s true or false. Further, implying that @alsetalokin?s device runs on an external power source which he hasn?t identified is obviously frivolous let alone it also implies that @alsetalokin is being fraudulent. Semi-educated people such as you should be advised to restrain from expressing their unqualified opinions in forums such as this because they clutter it and make the substantial findings sink into the swamp of incompetence.

@omnibus,

After seeing your real scientific skills, I?d say you take your opinions and shove them somewhere.

I told you already that I?m done with all of your nonsense.
Besides, I was not even talking to you.
So please take the bus and go.

Good luck again!