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The inventions of Captain Hans Coler

Started by neptune, January 31, 2008, 01:48:38 PM

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Koen1

Interesting... I never heard of "deflecting magnets" in the
center of the setup...

Can you please post a link to that German patent?
I want to take a look at it, see if it is indeed something
that does not appear in the other websources...

The odd thing is that the setup as described in those British
papers is claimed to have actually been built by Coler and
tested by several electrical engineers, and it is claimed
to have actually worked as Coler said it would.
If that setup is indeed different from what is described in the
patent, then I wonder how essential those central "deflecting
magnets" really were...

As for the Stromerzeurger, it was claimed to produce a huge lot
more output than the Magnetstromapparat, so in that respect
it would appear to be more usefull than the latter, which only
put out very little.
Unfortunately I do not know of any patents on that, nor of any
other info besides that given in the British documents on Coler.
I have discussed it with a few other interested people and it
has been suggested that the Stromerzeuger worked on the
basis of magnetic "diode" effects that obstruct charge flow
in one direction, which would allow the transformer type
coupling to use the back emf to stimulate charge flow in
the second layer of plates and magnets and vice versa,
thus resulting in a self-oscillating circuit. How that could
ever produce over unity is a mystery still. ;)

Michelinho


@ Koen1,

The Stromerzeurger looks very much like the Tesla radiant energy device but instead of caps, Coler used magnets.

Link for the German patent:
www.rexresearch.com/coler/de680761.pdf

Take care,

Michel

TinselKoala

Quote from: Michelinho on January 13, 2009, 10:29:35 AM
More pictures.

I think the one at the top is George Hathaway's replication. He got a few milliamps, probably from the mains.

One feature that most "replications" of Coler's device have, is that they are built TOO WELL. I think that Coler's original probably had one or more bad solder joints that introduced, shall we say, non-linearities into the circuit's behaviour.

Steven Dufresne

@Koen1,
Re the energy source of the Stromzeuger, this is stated in the UK report:
" 4. It is then stated that as well as the normal electrons flowing from the battery and from induction when the circuit is opened or closed, "space electron" flow from "repelling spaces" to "attracting spaces" between the plates, but this theory I was unable to follow any further."

I read that to say Coler was saying that ZPE was being tapped in between the plates to produce charged particles ("space electrons".) In the testatika magnet circuit, the equivalent of Coler's plates would be the combination of disk and grid-like plate facing the disk.

My reason for greater interest in the Stromzeuger over the Magnetstromapparat is as you say, because of the larger output. Sadly, the description is far more confusing.
-Steve
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Michelinho


@TinselKoala,

That was exactly my impression, to nicely done. We did a crude test with 6 horseshoe magnets stringed  in an hexagonal setup and a pancake coil outside and got around 0.5 v from it so the theory seems sound. The wooden setup (in More pictures) uses cow magnets as you can see the rounded ends, the new ones are alnico.

http://www.magnetsource.com/Solutions_Pages/cowmagsAlnicoPill.html

I'll try the iron, neo and probably the alnico cow magnets since they are cheap. The diference would probably be in the size of the hexagon. I wont solder or drill the neo as they can produce toxic fumes, just warping the end of the wire on the magnets will be good enough for tests.

Take care all and thanks for the inputs.

P.S.: I have read all what is available on the net including the coler.zip.