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RMEP

Started by wizkycho, February 01, 2008, 10:08:45 AM

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February 04, 2008, 07:21:47 AM
Quote from: gyulasun on February 04, 2008, 06:45:12 AM
Hi,

Once you create the changing poles in your electromagnet, why do you need the rotary permanent magnet?
I do not think it is neccessary. 
If you form the electromagnets surface area to match the half circle (or whatever) surface of the permeable material, you will receive changing flux in the same way at its ends.
You could still combine somehow the electromagnet with a (non-rotating) permanent magnet to increase its strength (like in polar electromagnets or in parallel path technology)...

I think if you can create the situation shown in your Naudin link before ( http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mep1.htm ) with your changing pole electromagnets, then there may be a chance...

Gyula

Interesting is that knowone (neither have I) continued with such proposal and see if electromagnet can replace PM as suggested.
because of three things I think rotating magnet has better chance here - strong magnetic field is allready created within (doesn't have to be recreated using energy) and second permeability of core of el.mag. allso is good path for mag flux of static magnet so this flux needs to be "pushed out" first (again using more energy). this is only speculation. Needs experimental proof/dissaproval.
and third using magnets is experimentaly proven (Naudin link)
el.mag. is good way of reducing moveable parts.
What is most intriguing in such setups is that when strong fields are changing mechanical
output is strong and there is no Lenzlike counter effect except eddy currents that are "easily" overcomed using laminated not conducting permeable material. This gives us wide space of taping lot's of FE

wiz

gyulasun

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February 04, 2008, 07:46:35 AM
Hi,

Mostly you are right. 

But a similar (not exactly the same) principle like yours was a topic here years ago and unfortunately nobody reported any good or bad practical results on it:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,309.0.html (click on magneticenergypump_2.gif  picture to see the animation)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,302.msg1917.html#msg1917  reply#15:   motor.gif

Gyula
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