Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[ramset]

  LAR Change the we to I     MY personal experience   and very true in my life  I have a son such as you speak of and have learned a great deal from him over the years     as well as many others    I meant no offence    Chet

[ramset]

LAR   PS I know somebody is going to think it or say it but PB IS NOT MY SON      Chet

[LarryC]

  LAR Change the we to I     MY personal experience   and very true in my life  I have a son such as you speak of and have learned a great deal from him over the years     as well as many others    I meant no offence    Chet

Hi Chet,

I'm truely sorry if you felt that I implied an offence on your part, please believe me as I have not intended it so. I will not say anything further about your situation, as only the actual parents can truely express their situation. But you do bring tears to my eyes as well as many others.

May the God of your faith bless you with the strength and fortitude needed.

Regards,
Larry

[polarbreeze]

Has anyone put a coil around the shaft to measure exactly how much magnetic flux is getting into the motor? 

25 gauss I believe Thane mentioned at one time.

I have also posted more than once on just how implausible any notible level of flux getting to the motor is.

Aether, you did say it was implausible but you never explained why. According to Thane's measurements, whatever is going on in that shaft is changing the power consumption by about 20%. This is very significant and I don't think you can just dismiss it as "implausible". If there is now a quantitative measure of the flux, we can compare that with the level that you'd predict is required to have an impact on the motor. What level is that, do you have a figure?

As well as measuring the flux in the shaft, the following two simple measurements would provide more information to refine our understanding of this system:

1. Measure the torque on the shaft. This, along with the rpm which is already being measured, will allow us to quantify the amount of mechanical power that is being delivered from the prime mover to the "generator" under different conditions.

2. Measure the flux at specific points in the motor (stator and rotor), including observing its waveform. This will allow us to observe what actually happens in the motor under different conditions.


Aether, I'm sorry to say that you seem to be very quick to dismiss theories that are proposed by others but you don't seem to be so forthcoming with theories of your own, nor to be supportive of objective measurements that would help to flush out the truth. It's hard to make any progress that way.

PB

[OilBarren]

Aether, I'm sorry to say that you seem to be very quick to dismiss theories that are proposed by others but you don't seem to be so forthcoming with theories of your own, nor to be supportive of objective measurements that would help to flush out the truth. It's hard to make any progress that way.
PB

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE JUST PRESENTED IDEAS AND THEORIES TODAY WITHOUT TAKING PERSONAL POT SHOTS AT EACH OTHER?

THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO VERBALLY ATTACKING AND TRYING TO "KILL" EACH OTHER ON TUESDAY.

OK LET'S HEAR IT?

WHO HAS A BETTER THEORY THAN MINE I.E.
GENERATOR BACK EMF INDUCED FLUX GOING INTO THE DRIVE SHAFT AND AFFECTING THE MOTOR.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND YOUR PROPOSITION SHOULD RELATE TO PART 1 AND 2 ON THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS.

1) IF NOT MAGNETIC FLUX WHAT ELSE COULD IT POSSIBLY BE?

2) OH AND ALSO HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACCELERATE A 1/4 HP MOTOR WITH A 10 LB ROTOR FROM 300 RPM UP TO OVER 1100 RPM - WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL ELECTRIC POWER -BUT JUST A 3" STEEL BAR? REMEMBER ALL OTHER PARAMETERS ARE EQUAL.

SO LET'S BE GENUINE HERE...
I WOULD LOVE FOR SOMEONE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY THEORY.

MAYBE IT IS AFFECTING THE ROTOR FREQUENCY?
HYSTERISIS CURVE?
ROTOR CORE RELATIVE PERMEABILITY?

AND FINALLY
3) WHY DOES A PLEXIGLASS ROTOR PRODUCE THE SAME RESULT (ACCELERATION) WITH 8 COILS BUT NOT WITH ONLY 1 (DECELERATION)?

ANY TAKERS?
Let's also remember to have a little fun - this is just entertaining debate after all.
Thane