Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[The_Angel]

I have been watching this thread from the very first post, quietly in the background.  Originally, I saw the news article, and then did some additional searching and found http://tyler.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2008/2/4/3505063.html which ultimately led me here.  I'm highly impressed by the progress that has been made and the collaboration of all those who have offered ideas and attempted to replicate Thane's results.  The thread has led to many interesting dinner discussions with both my children and at times friends and peers.  My background is and has been in Finance and the development of start-up companies.  My interest in this topic is more a hobby than professional in nature and I have often investigated other reports of potential "free energy" claims/projects e.g. "The Searl Effect" "Steorn" etc.  I look forward to the daily posts and the test results and am looking forward to Aether's future results.
I just felt I should take the time to say thank you to all those involved and their willingness to post their observations and data.

OK THE DAY IS ALMOST OVER SO I GUESS IT'S TIME TO COME CLEAN.  ALL OF THE ABOVE IS 100% TRUE.  THE BELOW HOWEVER...

SADLY PB DIDN'T BITE ON MY APRIL FOOLS JOKE.  PB YOU ARE BEYOND ANNOYING AND IT IS CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT YOU HAVE NO REAL INTEREST IN THE RESEARCH BEING DONE.  I CAN ONLY PRAY THAT PEOPLE WILL SIMPLY STOP RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS REGARDLESS OF HOW AGGRAVATING AND NONSENSICAL THEY ARE.  THE ONLY POSITIVE THAT YOUR REPETITIVE POSTS HAVE BROUGHT ME IS THE LAUGHTER  I ENJOY WHEN THANE MOCKS YOU IN HIS RESPONSES.

I also want to thank Polarbreeze for his continued involvement.  His fair and reasonable questions.  His desire to learn and bring some order to the discussion and his obvious intellectual openness and thought provoking questions, answers and ideas.

I don't have a problem with Polarbreeze being here.  So what if he's asking questions and being skeptical.  What's wrong with that?  He hasn't been disrespectful to anyone as far as I can tell.

I have taken interest in Luc and Thane's work and will hopefully have something built in the coming months.  I only hope that I will replicate what they're doing..(man that's a lot of wire). 

Perhaps you should continue staying in the background Onygains until -you- start contributing something; I will attempt to remain there as well.

[The_Angel]

I AM POSTING THIS PM FROM PB BECAUSE MAYBE HE (OR SHE) FINALLY HAS SOMETHING REALLY WORTHWHILE TO CONTRIBUTE...

Re: EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE ABOUT BALANCE AND FINDING THE RIGHT BALANCE AGAIN AND AGAIN AFTER WE CHANGE SOMETHING...

Thane, yes, that's exactly what it's about - from your reactions it seems you think I'm trying to trash what you're doing or trick you or something but, trust me, if you really want to progress this thing you need to dig into the theory in the directions I'm pointing. Each time you change something you have to adjust to find a new metastable point where the system can be pushed into instability by a small perturbation. That's what's behind your observation about "balance".

You're calling it balance; I'm calling it stability/instability. Same thing. Once you have a handle on the torque-speed characteristics of the load and of the motor, then you won't have to do so much guessing because you'll be able to apply what you've learned already to each new variant. Even if you're finding out new stuff, no reason not to benefit from the theory that's already out there. I think that's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

PB

FUNNY THING AS MUCH AS I ENJOY TRASH TALKING PB - THERE MAY BE SOME MERIT TO THIS - AFTER ALL LUC WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A PONY BRAKE THIS AFTERNOON.

BACK TO THE THEORY - AND TO BE BLUNT - RIGHT NOW WE ARE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A QUICK LAY. PROOF OF CONCEPT AND EXCITING VISUAL DEMO'S LIKE THE DUNE BUGGY AND THE TRANSFORMER.

THEORY AND OPTIMIZATION CAN ALL HAPPEN LATER ON WHEN OUR TROOPS ARE SAFE AT HOME AND OIL WARS ARE NO LONGER TOLERATED OR REQUIRED.

Thane

Nice answer Thane.

[JustMe]

I don't have a problem with Polarbreeze being here.  So what if he's asking questions and being skeptical.  What's wrong with that?  He hasn't been disrespectful to anyone as far as I can tell.

I have taken interest in Luc and Thane's work and will hopefully have something built in the coming months.  I only hope that I will replicate what they're doing..(man that's a lot of wire). 

Perhaps you should continue staying in the background Onygains until -you- start contributing something; I will attempt to remain there as well.

He has on more than one occasion been enormously disrespectful - and manipulative - which is probably why you don't notice.

[The_Angel]

I don't have a problem with Polarbreeze being here.  So what if he's asking questions and being skeptical.  What's wrong with that?  He hasn't been disrespectful to anyone as far as I can tell.

I have taken interest in Luc and Thane's work and will hopefully have something built in the coming months.  I only hope that I will replicate what they're doing..(man that's a lot of wire). 

Perhaps you should continue staying in the background Onygains until -you- start contributing something; I will attempt to remain there as well.

He has on more than one occasion been enormously disrespectful - and manipulative - which is probably why you don't notice.

I don't know why, but I just have this feeling that you insulted me and lied -- all in one sentence.  But I'll say no more.  I'm sorry I even said anything to begin with.

[OilBarren]

Hi Thane,
Do you have any opinion on why Vince's setup only worked with one long core, instead of the 8 short ones?
Thanks,
Larry

I'LL BET LUC'S 1ST TRANSFORMER ROYALTY CHECK THAT:
THE VOLTAGE INDUCED IN THE LONG COIL IS HIGHER THAN IN 1 OF THE 8 SHORT COILS?

THEREFORE I'M GUESSING THE SMALLER "8 COIL" COIL'S BACK EMF INDUCED FIELD REMAINS IN THE AIR GAP CAUSING DECELERATION RATHER THAN BEING LARGE ENOUGH TO MAKE IT INTO THE MOTOR TO CAUSE ACCELERATION?

SO I IMAGINE - ESSENTIALLY HE IS OPPERATING THE SYSTEM BELOW THE CRITICAL BACK EMF MAGNITUDE / SPEED REQUIREMENT?

I HOPE I AM RIGHT - LUC HAS BEEN WANTING TO BUY NEW ZEALAND FOR A LING TIME.

Thane