Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[Super God]

Do you think the prime mover could be replaced with an engine somehow?  Or would you need an engine -> generator ->induction motor -> generator type of setup?

[OilBarren]

Do you think the prime mover could be replaced with an engine somehow?  Or would you need an engine -> generator ->induction motor -> generator type of setup?

ASSUMING THE "ACCELERATION EFFECT" IS CONFINED TO THE COILS THEMSELVES (NOT PROVEN YET) - THEN ANY PRIME MOVER SHOULD WORK AS LONG AS THE ADDITIONAL TORQUE SUPPLIED BY THE COILS (ASSUMING AS WELL THAT THIS IS WHAT OCCURS) - IS GREATER THAN THE TORQUE REQUIRED TO TURN THE PRIME MOVER ALONE.

THE INDUCTION MOTOR IS GREAT BECAUSE IT IS SO EASY TO TURN - NO BRUSHES, NO PISTONS, NO FLYWHEEL ETC.

Thane

[RCH]

Thane,

I am a former science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS news during the Apollo Program, later a NASA consultant at the NASA-Goddard Spaceflight Center (and yes, I have presented before the Goddard Engineering Colloquium Committee ?).  I am currently the science advisor to ?Coast to Coast AM? ? a Premiere Radio Networks international program running nightly on approximately 500 affiliates in the United States (and around the world on the internet).  We reach several million listeners, each night .... 

We have many, many listeners in Canada as well.         

For many years I was also privileged to work with two great pioneers in the OU/alternative physics field ? Bruce DePalma  and Gene Mallove.  Sadly, both men are no longer with us to see your own accomplishments.  If they were, I?m sure they would be cheering you on ? as I do.

Having read all the threads posted in this forum now (NOT an easy task ?), viewed all the videos (several times ?), based on the experimental work of DePalma in particular, I do have a couple of questions:

What steps are you taking to finally determine whether the ?acceleration effect? is, indeed, coming from the coils/magnets ? or, is in the motor?

And, are you seriously entertaining the idea that, in the end, the ?effect? ? as Aether 22 strongly believes (with good reason ?) -- might not be ?electromagnetic? after all?

Looked at it from DePalma?s considerable experience with rotating systems (including electromagnetic ones ?), I can suggest a couple of small tests for your current motor/generator set-ups which could help significantly narrow the source of the observed rotational acceleration. 

In my opinion, this is an essential next step -- BEFORE you attempt to scale up the effect to a significantly larger system.

As an ?immediate technology product,? at the right time, I think the whole ?dune buggy demo? is a super idea; Americans are totally in love with their cars; produce a working proto-type of a true ?extended range electric vehicle," and a LOT of folks will sit up and take serious notice in a hurry ... including at the national political level, in THIS coming presidential election here in the States!

Your twin objectives ? to drastically reduce the political and economic incentives for more ?oil wars,? and to dramatically lower the price of energy for transportation, simultaneously ? are totally ?right on.?

My only concern is that you might be putting ?the dune buggy before the horse,? if you don?t clearly identify the source of the anomalous acceleration ... before you graduate to a much more ambitious engineering system.

To that end, identifying where the ?anomalous torque? is coming from is, in my opinion, essential.

I?m just a bit disappointed that I?m not several thousand miles closer to Ottawa, so I could provide some helpful ?hands-on input? in this regard ? and, maybe, even sweep a few floors.       

RCH

[OilBarren]

THANKS RCH,

What steps are you taking to finally determine whether the ?acceleration effect? is, indeed, coming from the coils/magnets ? or, is in the motor?

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED WE ALREADY ELIMINATED THE MOTOR FROM THE EQUATION WITH THE 2 FOOT LONG PVC PIPE EXPERIMENT. WE KNOW THAT THE INDUCTION MOTOR CHARACTERISTICS HAVE A PART TO PLAY BUT WE FEEL IT CAN ULTIMATELY BE REPLACED BY A DIFFERENT MOTOR TYPE WITH A "REAL" GENERATOR COIL SETUP.

And, are you seriously entertaining the idea that, in the end, the ?effect? ? as Aether 22 strongly believes (with good reason ?) -- might not be ?electromagnetic? after all?

IN MY "HASTY" OPINION IT IS MORE ELECTROSTATIC THAN ELECTROMAGNETIC.
SADDLY I THINK THE MIB"s GOT AETHER22.

My only concern is that you might be putting ?the dune buggy before the horse,? if you don?t clearly identify the source of the anomalous acceleration ... before you graduate to a much more ambitious engineering system.

YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT - BUT WE INTEND TO GIVE THAT HORSE ONE HELL OF A "FREE" RIDE.
OUR ENGINEERING SYSTEM WILL BE VERY SIMPLE AND AS CLOSE TO OUR CURRENT PROTOTYPE AS POSSIBLE. IT WILL BE BENCH TESTED EACH STEP OF THE WAY TO ENSURE IT SCALES UP PROPERLY.

To that end, identifying where the ?anomalous torque? is coming from is, in my opinion, essential.

GOOD LEAVE THE BROOM AT HOME AND COME AND DO IT FOR US. REMEMBER WE ARE ONLY TWO GUYS WHO OFTEN WORK 7 DAYS A WEEK - 8 TO 12 HOURS/DAY TRYING TO BEAT THE GRIM REAPER AT HIS GAME IN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN  AND ELSEWHERE.

FOR EXAMPLE LUC SPENT 4 SOLID DAYS WINDING OUR LATEST BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER AND NOW HE WALKS LIKE HUNCH BACK OF NOTRE DAME.

WE ALREADY HAVE MORE WORK THAN TIME ALLOWED.

I?m just a bit disappointed that I?m not several thousand miles closer to Ottawa, so I could provide some helpful ?hands-on input? in this regard ? and, maybe, even sweep a few floors.        :)RCH

IF YOU SINCERELY WANT TO HELP - YOU CAN DO SO BY SPREADING THE WORD (OF HOPE) ABOUT WHAT WE AND OTHERS ARE DOING AND THAT THE "WAR PIGS" WHO FEED ON PEOPLE'S FEARS CAN BE PUT ON A DIET.

OFFER PEACE TO OUR PEACE OFFICERS
ENFORCE LOVE
LOVE (AND HOPE) WILL ENDURE WHEN FEAR IS GONE.

IT'S OUR ONLY COLLECTIVE HOPE FOR SURVIVAL.

CHEERS
Thane

[RCH]

Thane,

I was going to ask ... would an in-depth radio interview on "Coast" -- in front of several million receptive listeners, for a few hours [with the key internet-movies available "on demand" (it IS radio, after all    ] be helpful at this point?  Or, do you want to wait ... until the "buggy's" ready?

On the "2-foot-long PVC experiment":

I must have missed THAT video! 

Which, of course, brings up the entire "brass coupling ,versus the 3-inch steel insert" in your original machine:

What happened to THAT debate? 

IS a ferromagnetic material required or not (the PVC would indicate "not")?  So, what about the brass ...?       

Since you still have the hollow brass coupling available on the original system, why not make up a RANGE of "slugs" which would fit inside that brass tube, and experiment with a variety of OTHER materials -- from other metals, to plastics ... and even various powders ... mercury, sodium ... etc. -- in an effort to see what IS "conducted" into the motor from the coils/magnets ...?

And, before you say it, I know: VERY limited personnel and time.

Which is why I wished I lived closer (as I used to -- in New England), as opposed to where I live now, in the beautiful deserts of New Mexico ....     

Glad to hear your plan on the "dune buggy demo."  It sounds reasonable and workable.  If it really can "extend" the range, it will make a helluva public splash in THESE crucial times.

Because, you're right: we don't have much "rope" ... or time ... left.


RCH