Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[JustMe]

I am on the thinnest of thin ice when I wander off into any technical aspects of this stuff, but I read an interesting item on the value of asymmetry in magnetic systems. It was talking about PM motors in this case, but the section that caught my eye said:

The point is this: It isn't the power that we externally input into a coil in a permanent magnet motor, a coil judicially placed in the back mmf section to allow us to break the symmetry of the back mmf region. That asymmetry ? once achieved by any means ? is what actually powers the system! All that inputting our paid-for energy to the coil does, is produce the necessary asymmetry.

And the materials and motor and assembly of the motor system care not one hoot how we get that asymmetry to be there. Get it anyway you wish, and the motor will then power itself and a load, taking its input energy directly from the seething virtual state vacuum via that broken symmetry.

I wondered if the things hoptoad said about the phase relationships in his observations might also be called 'asymmetry'? Could 'asymmetry' and ZPE have any role in what's going on with the generator?

Please forgive me if these questions are naive or otherwise way off base.

The full item is here:

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2866

[RCH]

JustMe,

You've nailed it (with a little help from Tom ...).             

The key is identifying "what" the assymetry "opens the door" to ... when it's somehow established.

Which is why Aether22's "missing in action" status here is becoming increasingly disturbing ....


RCH

[JustMe]

JustMe,

You've nailed it (with a little help from Tom ...).             

The key is identifying "what" the assymetry "opens the door" to ... when it's somehow established.

Which is why Aether22's "missing in action" status here is becoming increasingly disturbing ....


RCH

I was thinking about Aether22 when I was reading that article too.   I did hear from him about a week ago via e-mail - he said he has been busy generally, and was still stuck gathering materials for his replication attempt. So I think all is well, and hopefully he's still reading here and will pop in soon.

[RCH]

JM,

Thanks.


RCH

[OUman]

It appears that the Perepiteia Motor is nothing more than a hysteresis brake.  Placing the steel rods (wound by coils) near the spinning magnets induces alternating magnetic flux within the rods, the resulting magnetic hysteresis causes drag on the rotating disk, and heat losses within the steel rods.  Shorting out the coils effectively shields the steel rods from the disk's magnetic field, eliminating the hysteresis drag.  This causes the motor to speed up - but not as much as it would if the steel rods were removed completely.

This was posted nearly 3 months ago and seems to be a very plausible explanation. Have any of the experiments since then produced results inconsistent with that theory?