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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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gyulasun

Hi Vince,  I included my thoughts in green characters below.

Quote from: vince

With my clamp meter I checked the output of the secondary coil and found these results:

With 12 volt bulb attached .8 amps, 0 volts (Bulb would not light)
With 45K resistor .8 amps, 56.9 volts
With 4.6K resistor .8 amps, 26 volts
With Neon bulb attached .8 amps, 0 volts( Bulb would flash if I momentarily touched the second output wires together)
These measurements mean I think that there is no real power behind the 62V open output AC voltage it behaves as if this voltage would come mainly from 'stray' induction and not mainly from the primary flux made by the primary 8.8 Ohm coil.  Another strange thing is the output current is 0.8 Amper whatever your load is from an almost short (12V bulb) to a 45 kOhm resistor. As if your clamp meter had a lower limit for small currents...  Re the flash when you short the second output (1.1 Ohm) coil comes from the back emf voltage this process creates when you let the wires open and this back emf adds an extra induction to your first output coil.   


You are right about the 1.2 amps being high but I did notice that when I first tested this coil setup it was originally at about .3 amps then it later went to 1.3 and stayed there.

I did try hooking up the power to the original primary on the Main transformer and what I found was that the primary input current was 0 amps ( My meter did not detect anything) and my new secondary (Outer leg) was approximately 1 volts. The secondary on my Mains transformer showed 12.3 volts.  When I shorted out the new secondary it did not change the current reading but when I shorted out the secondary on my mains the current jumped to 4.3 amps! 
This latter comes from normal transformer operation: there is a direct/common flux path in this operating case between your original mains coil (24.5 Ohm) and the original secondary (1.1 Ohm) coil.  For you did not see any input current in the unloaded case again brings up the lower measurement limit question of you clamp meter! check its data sheet specifications.  Re your shorting the coil on the outer leg and no effect it is both good and bad news: good because the input current need does not seem to increase and bad because you cannot utilize the output from this coil (output voltage was around 1V and no useful output current).

I no electrical whiz but it sure looks like current draw does not increase if a load is taken on the opposite path or leg of my transformer.  Well, I agree but then again you cannot utilize this unusual behavior in your  present setup, something is wrong. I think what Thane wrote to you in the doc/pdf file on introducing airgap could be a possible remedy for your setup.  One more notice: because you welded the outer leg to the main core, the laminations individual insulating layers may have been damaged and /or the original permeability value of the core may have been decreased. The insulation problem may cause eddy currents that can explain the 1.2 A high input current, and also can explain -together with the possible permeability decrease-- the original 0.3 A current that went up to 1.2-1.3 A. 


rgds,  Gyula

LarryC

Quote from: Steven Dufresne on February 15, 2008, 07:43:01 AM
Quote from: M@rcel on February 15, 2008, 06:55:23 AM
What would happen if the centre of the core is replaced by a permanent magnet and the primary fed through a fwbr (no smoothing C's). Wouldn't it be logical to expect that when the flux created by the pm is larger than the (now unidirectional) flux by the primary that the bemf flux from the secondaries is blocked by the pm?
I've been thinking along the same lines (pulsed DC) and trying different shapes than just sine wave AC turned into DC; spikes too. I hadn't thought of the magnet too though. Good idea. The orientation of the magnet would have to be such that it is not demagnetized by the pulses. I especially like this when thinking of the junction between the two permeabilities as a diode and as a means of tapping ZPE EM waves.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

If you're interested in permanent magnet switching of the primary, please check out Flynn Research on the net, Controller circuit needed for Hilden Brandt motor on OU and the american patents of Sanshiro Ogino. Sanshiro developed the Sumo motor for Genesis corporation in Japan. His patent 6369479 has extensive research material with charts and graph showing the effects of voltage, current, distances, etc.

Regards, Larry

gotoluc

Hi all,

Please find 2 links to megaupload.com for the 2 full size videos I took of Thane Heins Demonstration February 11th 2008 at Ottawa University of his device demonstrating that when electromagnetic coils are under full load (in his demonstration shorted) and are magnetically coupled to the electric motor which is driving a steel wheel with Neo magnets arranged N-S-N-S-N-S-N-S around the wheel which is bolted to the steel shaft of the motor, it seems that the load (force needed to turn the wheel) on the motor is cancelled. However once the coils are open (no load) the motor (driving the same load with the same voltage) is uncapable of keeping the wheel of magnets freely turning and eventually comes to a stop.

To my knowledge electricity generators we have today work the other way around. The more load you have on the coils the more the motor will need power to drive the coils.

So I'm concluding; have been very unwise over the past 100 years on how to build an efficient generator ??? ??? ???

I sure hope not >:( since we are close to have ruined or world for the need of more electrical power. So I hope Thane's findings can be explained by the science we have relied on, if not we all need serious wake up :o call.

To date, no same theory as to why this is happening has come in. So I ain't going to sit around and wait for the science that its technology developed has proven to be cancer to the world, to tell me if this is usefull or not.

Thane is sharing it so we can use it now. So lets replicate, improve and intergate NOW.

Luc

Links:

Thane Heins Generator (Video) Part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=00RZNW1Z

Thane Heins Generator (Video) Part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2C3V1JXI


powercat

Hi
the 2 videos are not working for me,maybe its magaupload ???
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