Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[OilBarren]

@Thane
There's no doubt Thane that your particular coil arrangement is unique. I'm actually very intrigued, because your magnets within cups represent a semi-closed system within themselves, while your coil assembly is a closed system within itself, but an open ended system with respect to the magnets. As you are aware, I achieved very similar results to you with a completely open system.

One thing that appears to be common to both our systems is the actual air gap between the coil setup and the magnets. From my memory, I believe you found that a greater than usual air gap (but not too great) yielded a better result in your system?

Normal generators, as you would be aware have the minimum air gap possible. Usually around 0.5mm or less. My neo magnet alternator had a 3mm air gap, which is large by any conventional standards.

You seem to think that for this effect to work, there must be minimal flux in the air gap from the induced mmf of the coils ?

NO ONE (THAT I KNOW OF) HAS EVER SEEN THIS COIL SET UP BEFORE - NOR HAVE I SO I DOUBT THAT I WOULD HAVE COMMENTED ON THE AIR GAP. AND I DON'T AGREE THAT I EVER SAID THAT ABOUT A "GREATER AIR GAP" BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE. PERHAPS LUC MENTIONED IT?

ALSO THESE ARE PROTOTYPES WITH UNBALANCED COGGING TORQUE SO THE AIR GAP IS ABNORMALLY LARGE TO KEEP VIBRATION TO A MINIMUM.

ALSO ON POST Reply #1890 YOU CAN SEE A RIPPED COIL THE THE RIGHT AND BEHIND THE MOTOR - THIS IS WHERE THE ROTOR CAME OFF AT 1700 RPM AND HIT THE COIL BECAUSE THE AIR GAP WAS TOO SMALL.

IN THIS TOROID GENERATOR - THE AIR GAP REPRESENTS A VERY HIGH RELUCTANCE FLUX PATH TO THE INDUCED COIL MMFS - THERE SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO COIL FLUX THERE AT ALL, SAVE AT SATURATION POINT.

HEY - ARE YOU TAKING ULI UP ON HIS OFFER?

Thane

[OUman]

...I reviewed DePalma Homopolar/Unipolar generator research. ... My University and High School Physics text have no mention of the homopolar generator. Apparently because it went against Lenz's law and could not be explained by modern physics...
Regards,
Larry

I think the reason you don't see it in textbooks is more straightforward than that. The reason is simply that it didn't work. OUman

How quaint that some people are so willing to publicly display their ignorance.

How completely unnecessary when there is so much information available. One could actually
read how the government seized his work?

Can you cite your source to back up that statement? I can find no mention anywhere of "the" government (which government?) seizing De Palma's work. I'd be interested to know where you learnt of that.

How about Paramahamsa Tewari? His homopolar generator not work either?

That's correct. The Tewari system was basically a knock-off of De Palma's so of course it too did not work. If you think differently perhaps you could point us to any reports of its successful demonstration.

[OUman]

Aether and Larry C,

A Postscript ....

A few posts ago, our (current) favorite cynic and "agent" -- OUman -- asked Larry provocatively:

"... Can you cite examples to support any of your other statements [re Depalma's N-Machine]? I'm interested to find out how you know those things.

                         "- References in those university curricula or course outlines or course notes?
                         "- Textbooks* more recent than yours where these are mentioned?
                         "- Patent numbers?
                         "- Links to companies and products of that sort?"


In my earlier post, I outlined the little-discussed "underbelly" of the entire "scientific, peer-review publishing process" -- how scientific discoveries actually make their way into "university curricula ... textbooks ... or receive patents and corporate funds ..."; where, in fact, anonymous "hit men" -- unknown to the authors of "disturbing" scientific papers -- can literally scuttle any publication (and thus, successful replication by other scientists) of any unwanted and/or disquieting scientific assault opon "the status quo." 

OUman's question (above) -- in the face of this reality -- is (at best ...) naive.

My questions were simply directed at specific statements YOU made.

YOU said that this theory is taught in specific universities. I asked you what evidence you have of that.
YOU said that it appears in textbooks. I asked you for examples of that.
YOU said that there are patents issued. I asked you for the patent numbers.
YOU said that there are commercial products on the market. I asked you for details/examples.

It appears that your tirade about corrupt peer review and evil hit men (which may or may not be justified but is a red herring) came just in time to avoid answering those questions.

[LarryC]

All,

The reason I responded to OUman with a ridicules joke, was that it was such an obvious trap to waste our time and continue useless arguments. Even if you could reinforce that wheel enough, the vibration at 10 % of that rpm would snap off the welds or the motor shaft.

As far as the questions. A 5 year old could google hundred of examples, the only one that may be difficult is the new text book question. There is over 400 US patents, even some course text is available, reference to university research and companies.

The comparison that the magnet sliding thru a copper tube is the same as a magnet moving in sync with the tube is so laughable. If OUman really didn't understand the difference, there is no one here that could actual explain that obvious difference. I think even some 5 year old may know the difference.

So like Thane would say. Warning, don't drink PB koolaid.

RCH quote: I can't help wonder where Bruce DePalma and Eric Laithwaite's revolutionary ideas -- and supporting, extraordinary lab experiments -- would be today ... if THEY had had "the Web" ....


Regards,
Larry

PS: Real sorry if I offended any 5 year old. 

[LarryC]

@All,

I don't know how many of you been on the Hilden Brandt thread, but JackH has been diagnosed with ALS and was told that he only has a few years left. Someone has set up a PayPal site to make easy donations. If you're interested check Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed. If all who could afford it, gave a little, it would help with getting his patent and medical. Even you skeptics, just think, more threads to aggravate

Regards,
Larry