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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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aether22

Ah, nice, I've got a pulley system sorted, though it needs better mounting than 'sitting on my knee' everything is ready to go belt and pulley wise, so tomorrow I should be able to do the ultimate induction motor isolation test.

Now I wouldn't say that acceleration would rule out any possibility that a part or all of Thanes OU effect is aether getting to the motor but it really would make it unlikely to say the least, though it is possible there are 2 (aether derived) effects, one on the rotor and one on the motor (actually that is extremely possible), I also would not rule out the aether POSSIBLY getting to the motor anyway but this test should give a pretty decently definitive result either way.


To re-restate the case for the accelerative force occurring at the motor...

Thane found a steel shaft was required with his original stator setup and disproved his own theory that the speed simply wasn't high enough in the non-steel tests.  Thane found he could break through and get the effect but only by adding many more stators (which makes no sense that a generator borne force would require more stators wo work suddenly if the shaft is not all steel?????), I have also found laminated stators break through a gap as I would have reasonable expected. (thinner aether guides tend to accelerate the aether more)

Vince found the torque on the motor housing increased significantly on shorting where as if the acceleration force came from the generator this force would have decreased, no one has been able to suggest any possible error with Vince's technique.

Despite Thane showing that the acceleration force can manifest more powerfully than the drag induced by the stators presence, and despite the effect working better at higher speeds and working right up to the max speed of the motor there has been no success in getting the speed beyond the top speed of the motor, it will not get to synch, also despite a net acceleration from the presence of the stator and 'brutal' acceleration and a low drag from an off motor free wheeling or curiously long slowdowns have not been noted with shorted HV coils.


Evidence for acceleration effect not coming from the motor...

I was unable to block the aether from the motor by a gap even filled with material (steel filings) that can have a slowing effect.

While the variation from test to test was larger than the difference I seemed to find a 5% greater number of revolutions being completed on shutdown of the motor if the HV coil was shorted during the acceleration, this result however has other possibly explanations and seems too small to cover the apparent magnitude of the acceleration effect and was in the range of variation or error.

Back-emf is pretty well ruled out from contention leaving no choice for anything non-exotic to communicate the effect.

So far the weight of evidence IMO favors the motor as the source of the acceleration quite strongly, hopefully my experiment agrees because if not this thing is going to get harder to understand, not to mention it should lead to immediately more fascinating experiments and applications if I am right so my fingers are firmly crossed.

Damn I can talk, nobody reads this stuff huh, oh well it helps me formulate my thoughts ;)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

CRANKYpants

DEAR A(4.69^2),

I READ EVERY WORD - BUT I DON'T AGREE ABOUT YOUR "MOTOR THEORY" AND IT'S NOT WORTH DEBATING SINCE NOW WE CAN BOTH GO ABOUT PROVING WHERE THE ACCELERATION COMES FROM.

CHEERS
Thane

PS -
LEAVE THE KOOLAID (DEBATE) AND WALK AWAY DUDE!
GO DO SOMETHING REAL AND SHARE THAT...
WE ARE WITH YOU!


OUman

Quote from: aether22 on June 07, 2008, 02:41:24 AM
The problem is your (insane) idea IS NOT the idea the Ph.D proposed, it is you own contraption, er concraption.

Umm, Aether, yes it is exactly what he was proposing. I am simply trying to explain to you how the concept works since you didn't get it when you read his post. You are absolutely wrong in your assessment of this. If you really want to understand it, you'll have to educate yourself on it. If you instead want to believe in fairy tales, then I guess that's what you'll continue to do.

Quote from: aether22 on June 07, 2008, 02:41:24 AM
Well I posted my critique of the Ph.D's opinion, and you have not addressed my points but ignored them since you found them unassailable...

I did address the first of your points and if/when you finally manage to understand that one, I'll continue with the others.


OUman

Quote from: aether22 on June 07, 2008, 06:12:36 AM
So far the weight of evidence IMO favors the motor as the source of the acceleration quite strongly,

The irony is that you, I and "the PhD" all agree about that part! Of course it's in the motor.

Thane apparently disagrees. I wonder where others stand.

CRANKYpants



LEAVE THE KOOLAID (DEBATE) AND WALK AWAY DUDE(SSES)!
GO DO SOMETHING REAL AND SHARE THAT...

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