Thane Heins Perepiteia.

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NO COILS                       52 seconds 
NO CORES                     158 seconds


IN ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO RESPECTFULLY SMACK-DOWN I_RECK ONCE AND FOR ALL

THANE

Finally... some truth out of ottawa!!!

I know now the joy that PB felt when he had you in his sights, lol. Mr T, the old bullet maker, you have given me the ammunition I was dreaming off. From your own pen... the admission that
the cores do have drag, hehehe, I am delirious, 158 seconds for no cores versus 52 seconds with
cores.

But not being a "told you so" kinda guy I will just let this opportunity to rag you slip by almost
un-noticed, and gently point out out that the asked for test was with the rotor being brought up to speed, to test the Aspden Effect, not a run down test. It may or may not be valid... but if so would
certainly help to account for the wonderful variation in the test numbers.

Back to the lab,

Ron, the west coast PB

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YESTERDAY I WOUND HV COILS ON TOP OF THE HC COILS ON THE SAME CORE - SO NOW THERE IS NO EXTRA CORE LOSSES TO LOWER THE OUTPUT.

I GOT 1.8 WATTS WITH JUST THE HC COILS AND 10.4 WATTS (AND MORE AS ACCELERATION WAS CONTINUING) FROM THE HC COILS w/ HV COILS ENGAGED THROUGH A 10 OHM LOAD. HC COIL O/P DROPPED SLIGHTLY WHEN THE HV COIL WAS SHORTED BUT IT CAME BACK WITH MORE ONCE ACCELERATION KICKED IN.

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THANE

Interesting... I liked the tests also where you had one of the coils in the center of the leg. What
where the numbers on some of those tests? any conclusions? was that a workable solution?

On this test, I don't know if I will allow the speed up to compensate for the shorting loss... I will
accept reduced PM draw at the same speed however, so you can rest easy....

Ron

[CRANKYpants]

But not being a "told you so" kinda guy I will just let this opportunity to rag you slip by almost
un-noticed, and gently point out out that the asked for test was with the rotor being brought up to speed, to test the Aspden Effect, not a run down test. It may or may not be valid... but if so would certainly help to account for the wonderful variation in the test numbers.
Back to the lab,
Ron, the west coast PB

SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE MY CRYSTAL BALL WITH ME WHEN I RAN THESE TESTS. ALSO MY ONLY FOCUS IS REDUCING AND OR ELIMINATING LENZ'S LAW IN OUR GENERATOR - WHICH HAS CORES AND CORE DRAG AS ALL GENEAROS DO - AIR CORE TESTS PENDING IN THE FUTURE.

Interesting... I liked the tests also where you had one of the coils in the center of the leg. What
where the numbers on some of those tests? any conclusions? was that a workable solution?

On this test, I don't know if I will allow the speed up to compensate for the shorting loss... I will
accept reduced PM draw at the same speed however, so you can rest easy....

I WANT TO CREATE A GENERATOR WHICH IS CRITIQUE FOOL PROOF SUCH AS WINDING HV COILS ON TOP OF HC COILS WHICH DOES NOT ADD ADDITIONAL CORE AREA (OR MUCH COST) OR CREATE ANY ADDITONAL CORE LOSSES WHICH CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR MYSELF WHEN PRESENTING TO INVESTORS AND THEIR HIRED PITBULLS - WHO JUST WANT TO SHRED THE TECHNOLOGY AND WIN BROWNY POINTS.

THE "GOOD NATURED" AND (BAD NATURED) CRITIQUES HERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN PUSHING US TO HAVE ALL OUR DUCKS LINED UP WHEN THE "REAL" DEMOS OCCUR AND MONEY IS ON THE LINE.

EDDY CURRENT LOSS REDUCTION, CORE LOSS REDUCTION, AETHER EFFECT, COIL CAPACITANCE, BUBBLEGUM THEORY ... ETC  - THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO US IS - DOES THE GENERATOR PRODUCE MORE POWER WITH THE HV COIL INCLUSION THAN WITHOUT? - AND DOES IS THE COST INCREASE JUSTIFY THE POWER GAIN

ANSWER = YES - YES

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THE "GOOD NATURED" AND (BAD NATURED) CRITIQUES HERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN PUSHING US TO HAVE ALL OUR DUCKS LINED UP WHEN THE "REAL" DEMOS OCCUR AND MONEY IS ON THE LINE.

EDDY CURRENT LOSS REDUCTION, CORE LOSS REDUCTION, AETHER EFFECT, COIL CAPACITANCE, BUBBLEGUM THEORY ... ETC  - THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO US IS - DOES THE GENERATOR PRODUCE MORE POWER WITH THE HV COIL INCLUSION THAN WITHOUT? - AND DOES IS THE COST INCREASE JUSTIFY THE POWER GAIN

ANSWER = YES - YES

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Thane, Thir,

The Aspden effect is where when you (is that english?) spin up the flywheel a second time, it's speed
to final RPM is less... because "it" (the aether) remembers the previous rotation. This is presented here as a very convincing proof of the existence of the aether. A22 twain is away so I get to play!
and keep the aether ball up in the air, so to speak.

One might think the flywheel is a solid... but, on examination, it is only composed of little swirls of
energy floating in a sea of little squiggles of energy (the aether) This is natures building block, so
to recognize the aether just gives one a broader glimpse of the wheel works of nature. Nothing to
be ashamed of, like a belief in UFO's and/or masturbation, lol


Ron, the aether mon (while 'two two' is away)

[CRANKYpants]

Mr T, the old bullet maker, you have given me the ammunition I was dreaming off. From your own pen... the admission that the cores do have drag, hehehe, I am delirious

I_RETRACT,

MY PEN OF TRUTH IS MIGHTIER THAN THY SWORD OF HEHE DELIRIUM...

I DON'T THINK I EVER SAID CORES DON'T HAVE DRAG - I BELIEVE I SAID CORE DRAG IS A MACHINE/PHYSICAL DESIGN ISSUE AND BEST CORE MATERIAL PRODUCING LEAST DRAG.

- WHEREAS LENZ DECELERATION UNDER LOAD IS A PERFORMANCE ISSUE WHICH IS AMPLIFIED BY BEST CORE MATERIAL USE BECAUSE THE FIELD IS MULTIPLIED BY THE CORE'S INCREASED  RELATIVE PERMEABILITY.

SO YOU CAN DECREASE CORE LOSSES IN MANY WAYS BUT THIS WON'T CAUSE SYSTEM ACCELERATION LIKE HV COILS DO - DESPITE HC LOADING.

Thane of the Eastern Promises