Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[i_ron]

ANY POSSIBILITY OF SEEING POWER FACTOR ON THY SCOPE?  NO LOAD TO ON LOAD?
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ARE YOU SAYING THAT IN THE "HIGH WATT TEST" THE CURRENT DROPPED 2 AMPS FROM NO LOAD TO ON LOAD? iF SO THAT IS VERY COOL...

Thane THE HALF WIT

Then you must be from ottawa? lol

Hey bud, you've got this role reversal going and its not right... I'm supposed to be harassing you!

K, did one more test and with no load it does the jump at about .8 amp and 55 volts, hence your
wildly optimistic statement above is, hmmmm, not quite right.

Ron,  AC, (All Confused)

[CRANKYpants]

Then you must be from ottawa? lol

Hey bud, you've got this role reversal going and its not right... I'm supposed to be harassing you!

K, did one more test and with no load it does the jump at about .8 amp and 55 volts, hence your
wildly optimistic statement above is, hmmmm, not quite right.

Ron,  AC, (All Confused)

HARASS ME ABOUT OUR DUMP OF SNOW AND ME HITTING FREAKIN BLACK ICE AT 100 K TONIGHT ON THE WAY HOME...!

ANYWAY I AM LOOKING FOR A REASON AS TO WHY I OUGHT TO TRY THIS PRIMARY IN THE BI-TOROID. BUT WITHOUT PRIMARY POWER FACTOR NUMBES - I AM MISSING 1/3 OF THE EQUATION. NOT THAT IT WOULD MATTER I WOULDN'T BELIEVE YOU UNTIL I SAW IT FOR MYSELF ANYWAY.

NEW "NEGATING LENZ'S LAW" VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmrAbUiih3w

CHEERS
Thane DC, (DEADBEAT CHRISTIAN)

[derricka]

Isn't Black Ice fun! Not!

I once tried crossing the Willingdon overpass in Burnaby, slowing down to walking speed because I could see several abandoned cars at funny angles. As I passed the first abandoned car, I hit black ice, and my steering wheel became utterly useless. I then ended up hitting the second abandoned car, putting a small ding in the driver side rear panel. As the car was abandoned, I left a note (yeah, damn my guilty conscience...), and my business card, under the wiper blade.  The next day I got a call from ICBC Insurance telling me that I would be considered responsible for 10% of the damage, and that my share would cost about $80 and no lost points.  I asked why only 10%, and was told that after I left, at least three other people had hit the same car in exactly the same spot, and not to mention, much harder.

[hoptoad]

WELL IF YOU EXCEED THE CORES ABILITY TO TRANSFER FLUX AT HIGH FREQUENCIES THEN YOU GET NO OR A REDUCED OUTPUT ALONG WITH YOUR ACCELERATION SO WHAT IS THE POINT IN THAT?

And if you don't exceed the cores ability ?

30 hz is very low, even 600 hz is very low, and most lamination materials for transformer cores have good flux transfer ratings in the mid to high kilohertz range.
E.G. laminations for audio transformers must have a good response up to 30 kilohertz minimum to perform their function in a manner which produces an output acceptable to the human ear. In reality, they have good flux transfer responses well above 100 kilohertz

OUR CONCENTRIC BI-COIL (ALL LAMINATED CORES) STARTS ACCELERATING AT 30 Hz SO REAL WORLD APPLICATIONS HAVE TO BE KEPPT IN MIND.  T

Real world applications range from slow moving, low rev / high torque requirements such as those of the heavy transport industry to high speed / high rev high torque requirements in the auto racing sports industry, with various speed/rev and torque requirements for all manner of vehicles in between those extremes.

Low revs / low frequency will not always be the most suitable for all situations.

What happens with your generator coil assembly, when the drive motor is already running at full (high) speed  (i.e without variac or any other speed control limiting) without a load, and then a load and / or s/c is applied ?

Do you see an increase in RPM above full speed (with no speed controller) .?
Is this RPM higher than the motor speed (with no speed controller) would be without the generator coil assembly attached at all. ?


P.S. How goes the buggy
Cheers and KneeDeep

[hoptoad]

P.P.S - You may want to check out yet another version peripitea.

It's a little poor on presentation quality and skimpy on technical and electrical data, but watch the video and see what happens.

http://atlantiansolutions.com/videos.htm

Thread started by author here : http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5939.msg135099#msg135099

Note that he says the globe is connected to the drive coil. I suspect it's a pulse motor - Adams style, with a diode or /full wave bridge output on the drive coil going to the globe.

Some reasons it runs well one way and not the other is probably related to the firing position with respect to register point, and or the pickup coil angle with respect to the firing coil angle. Also, if he's using solid sate switching, the polarity of the supply connection will make an obvious difference to circuit performance, due to the polarity requirements of the semiconductors.
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The shorted coil - impedance unknown, does exactly the same thing as it does in Thanes demonstrations. It accelerates the rotor, with a decrease in motor input current at the same time.

The advantage of the pulse motor is that the power from the flyback will increase with speed as the input power decreases. No need for 2 separate high and low impedance output pickup coils.

Still, if you can pickup any extra energy by having a bi-coil (Thane style) pick up arrangement then go for it.

IMO (having built many Adams motors in the past) this is a perfect example of an Adams pulsed motor/generator showing the same acceleration effect as Adams demonstrated and documented in 1977.