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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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Heinstein

I've got the same question actually.
Can I do it at home? Not without your specs ;)
No, patience isn't my strong suit.
Oh, and unlike JustMe I'm gonna video it and put it on youtube ;)

Do it at home get:

an induction motor
a steel rotor
a solenoid (or many)
some strong magnets
a variac (would be useful as well)
safety glasses

Thane



aether22

I'm blue da ba dee da ba di...   (Eiffel 65's, one hit wonder)
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Do it at home get:

an induction motor

Will buy one if I must but you have indicated that it worked much the same with your drill.
So I'm waiting on you to verify that if you had filmed parts 1&2 with a drilll in place of an induction motor that the results would be similarly impressive.
You don't need to film it, just tell me how the test with your drill went.


a steel rotor

I can probably find a flat circular steel disk a few mm's think.
Do you have any reason to believe that would not be suitible? (Not sure what your one was sold/made for but I don't know if I can get one locally, can you tell me what it's purpose is?)


a solenoid (or many)

I guess I could just go ahead and build one but if you have a rough idea of how many turns it would be helpful.
Also helpful would be core dimensions.

It is in your interest to have the first replication attempt I'm aware of anyway be successful, a failed replication does no one any good, least of all your technologies reputation.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

Quote from: EMdevices on February 21, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
QuoteThe speed did not stabilize - it was still increasing ââ,¬â€œ I lowered the input voltage to keep it within safe limits.

What kind of safe limit? ( as it magnets flying off?)  Because the AC induction motor will not speed up beyond it's operating speed dictated by #of poles etc..

Perhaps a suggestion would be to design a wheel that can handle the full speed of the induction motor. Then see if it accelerates even more when loaded.  If that happens we know power flow occurs from the motor (now a generator) to the grid.  But perhaps the real quest should be to see if we can break into overunity, even below this top speed.

If the 'Back EMF' is possibly speeding an induction motor past it's sychronous speed or at any rate improving it's effiency likely beyond unity, and the effect works on a universal motor too.

Then while speculative we may propose that it stands a chance of making a transformer overunity. (Maybe all transformers or maybe only ones without a closed magnetic bath between primary and secondary, just as a motors magnetic path is not closed)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

Heinstein

Do it at home get:

an induction motor

Will buy one if I must but you have indicated that it worked much the same with your drill.
So I'm waiting on you to verify that if you had filmed parts 1&2 with a drilll in place of an induction motor that the results would be similarly impressive.
You don't need to film it, just tell me how the test with your drill went.


NO I DIDN'T - LUC CAME TO THE LAB TODAY BUT DID NOT BRING HIS CAMERA.
YOUR RESULTS WOULD NOT BE AS IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE THE DRILL IS BUILT FOR TORQUE NOT SPEED - ALTHOUGH THE EFFECTS SHOULD STILL BE EVIDENT.

a steel rotor

I can probably find a flat circular steel disk a few mm's think.
Do you have any reason to believe that would not be suitible? (Not sure what your one was sold/made for but I don't know if I can get one locally, can you tell me what it's purpose is?)

MY NEXT PROTOTYPE WILL USE A SOLID DISK - I THINK IT OUGHT TO WORK FINE.
MY ROTOR IS ACTUALLY A GARDEN WHEEL BARREL WHEEL.

a solenoid (or many)

I guess I could just go ahead and build one but if you have a rough idea of how many turns it would be helpful. Also helpful would be core dimensions.

EVERYTHING ON MY PROTOTYPE IS DIFFERENT TO TEST WHICH SET UP WORK BEST - NOTHING I COULD DO WOULD MAKE IT FAIL.

It is in your interest to have the first replication attempt I'm aware of anyway be successful, a failed replication does no one any good, least of all your technologies reputation.
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IF YOU ATTACH A STEEL ROTOR TO A STEEL DRIVE SHAFT AND USE AN INDUCTION MOTOR WITH A SOLENOID COIL YOU CAN'T FAIL.  THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FAILURE ANYWAY IF YOU LEARN SOMETHING AND THEN TEACH US WHAT YOU LEARNED.

DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK LUC TO BUILD YOU ONE AND MAIL IT TO YOU?

Thane

EMdevices

Thane, one question.

Does your motor speed up faster, or is the effect more pronounced, if you place your external solenoids, on the same side with the motor?  (relative to the wheel)    I would venture to guess yes, since the flux linkage is greater through the motor axle due to the proximity.

What would be really great is if this phenomena somehow had to do with mysterious torques occurring on the magnets themselves.  That's what I was thinking initially when I saw the videos, sort of like the Adam's motor and others.

EM