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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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hydrocontrol

Got an idea. ??  What if you took a simple bicycle rear chain clutch assembly and used it for the interface between the Ryobi motor and the wheel. You could then place a smaller rotor on the other shaft end of the Ryobi motor to measure motor RPM independent of rotor wheel RPM. By having the system clutched it would help move the motor out of the equation. If you engaged the HV coil and the RPM of the rotor wheel took off and the RPM of the motor stayed the same that really be something to show in a video ;).

i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on January 22, 2009, 06:54:34 AM
ALL'S QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT...

WHAT ABOUT THE FRENCH?
I ALREADY NAILED THIS GUY,  ???

T


I have to hand it to you, your sense of humor is MAGNIFIQUE...  ;D, I would say 'forget the French'
but then we would have an uprising on our hands...LOL,

R

sparks

    How many driver rotors would it take to get say 10hp out of this pulse motor.
Tesla did this thing with a rotating magnetic field (replaced spinning magnets)  then he put a wound rotor inside the rotating magnetic field and put a brake to it.   This then made his ouput go up just like making a generator spin faster.  Then in a patent a little later  (damned if I can find it again)  he gets rid of the rotor all together and uses just coils in place of the armature.  He comes right out and calls it a generator at this point.  Of course he still had the exciter producing ac pulses but he calls this torroidal ring with 4 distinct solenoids wrapped around the ring an armatureless generator.  He does this under the pretext that he is trying to overcome the limitations of a generator because of the primemovers inablility to go fast.  Of course this problem was overcome in standard generators by increasing the magnetic flux density of the rotor and increasing the torque requirements of the prime mover.  How fast can a rotating magnetic field go before it blows apart?  Your bolt torque tests filling the thread reminded me of this.
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CRANKYpants

Quote from: hydrocontrol on January 22, 2009, 08:31:33 AM
Got an idea. ??  What if you took a simple bicycle rear chain clutch assembly and used it for the interface between the Ryobi motor and the wheel. You could then place a smaller rotor on the other shaft end of the Ryobi motor to measure motor RPM independent of rotor wheel RPM. By having the system clutched it would help move the motor out of the equation. If you engaged the HV coil and the RPM of the rotor wheel took off and the RPM of the motor stayed the same that really be something to show in a video ;).

THIS IS A GOOD IDEA BUT WHY DOES THE "MOTOR HAVE TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE EQUATION"?

ISN'T IT SAFE TO SAY THAT AS THE MOTOR ACCELERATES IT IS MOVING ITSELF OUT OF THE EQUATION - APPROACHING FULL SPEED @ 3600 RPM WHERE SLIP ANGE = 0 DEGREES AND THE STATOR CURRENT IS APPROACHING 0.

NOW COMPARE THIS WITH THE GENERTAOR'S HC COIL WHICH IS INCREASINGLY IMPOSING ITSELF AGAINST THE ROTOR.

NOTE:

CONVENTIONAL HC MODE - 0.1 WATT CAUSES DECELERATION

PEREPITEIA HV MODE - HC + HV COILS - 21 WATTS CAUSES ACCELERATION WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THE MOTOR HAS REMOVED ITSELF TO THE TUNE OF 104 WATTS.

WE ARE PLANNING TO EMPLOY A CLUTCH FOR THE ROTOR IN THE X PRIZE CAR SO THAT THE ROTOR IS FREE-WHEELING EVEN WHEN THE CAR IS SITTING AT A STOPLIGHT.

CHEERS
Thane

samedsoft

Quote from: CRANKYpants on January 22, 2009, 07:47:17 PM

WE ARE PLANNING TO EMPLOY A CLUTCH FOR THE ROTOR IN THE X PRIZE CAR SO THAT THE ROTOR IS FREE-WHEELING EVEN WHEN THE CAR IS SITTING AT A STOPLIGHT.

CHEERS
Thane

Dear Thane,

  Why don't you just put 5 coils on one side and another 5 coils other side of the rotor and then try to see how much torque is being gained?

  You should also put high quality torque sensor on the shaft, I wish..

  It is quite reasonable to keep system simple as much as possible.

  Will you couple shaft to the clutch?

  Nuri Temurlenk
  God bless humanity..