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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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CRANKYpants

Quote from: hydrocontrol on February 28, 2009, 10:59:29 PM
What I see Thane trying to do is use a AC motor to replicate the wind and supply a constant input to his generator while he changes his generator configuration to get the best output. Is this the best approach ? I do not think I would do it that way but until I start doing my own replication it is not my call.

ACTUALLY HYDROCONTROL - I AM USING THE AC MOTOR TO REPLICATE AN AC MOTOR...

LIKE THE ONES USED IN THE TESLA ROADSTER, MINI COOPER EV, RUFF PORSCHE EV, AC PROPULSION EV ETC.
WE ARE NOT ALL THAT INTERESTED IN WIND UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS A WIND TURBINE THAT SPINS FASTER THAN THE WIND BLOWS.  8)

AND FORGET ABOUT KNEEDEEP - "YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD FROG NEW TRICKS."

CHEERS
T

poynt99

Thane,

I'm not aware of your exact setup, but the meter being developed will work with any device that uses an AC or DC electrical input power source and an AC or DC electrical output power source to a load. This includes AC and DC motors and generators.

Certain aspects of the meter's design would need to be beefed up to handle the 1000's of Watts present in motors and generators, but that's a straight forward engineering problem.

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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hoptoad

Quote from: CRANKYpants on February 28, 2009, 11:01:02 PM
GENERATOR INPUT POWER = 0
So you don't need a driving source then? No rotory mechanical input to induce current ? Just watch the generator start up on its own and start outputting power.  ::)

markzpeiverson

Quote from: wattsup on February 28, 2009, 08:59:20 PM

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So you guys figure it out yourselves.


@wattsup

RE: "So you guys figure it out yourselves."

That's exactly what TH and others on this thread have been doing since the beginning!!!   Your desire for an UO device is too strong.  We all would like to see OU achieved, but fortunately TH's desire to UNDERSTAND was stronger than his desire to 'achieve the impossible (OU)'.

The path that TH has taken, although slow and somewhat obscure to most, frustrating to many, is to not miss anything, to learn all he can about the 'system', and thus, give him the best shot at success.  The exact same requests as yours were around in the early days of this thread, and TH was NOT interested in 'proving' OU.  It all started when he came across a situation that was contrary to established physics, and all his work and prototypes, successes and failures, since then have been to help UNDERSTAND what is happening, and how the variables interact.  Now that he has a much better understanding, and I think he might agree that it is not yet complete, he is going to give OU a shot.

If he would have done it your way, I bet he would have hung it up long ago, and not learned what he has; and not taught those with the desire and patience to learn, things that you won't find in a textbook.  I have to wonder how many others have taken your advice and given up too early because they got discouraging results before understanding the system enough to optimize it???  What a shame...

-Mark

PS: If you're so smart, perhaps you can answer this question...
This system in really quite basic: AC induction motor connected to a primitive generator composed of a flywheel with permanent magnets and for the stator, two types of coils.  Oh, and don't forget the core/core material.  When the HC (high current) coils are connected to a load (typically a power resistor of 10 ohms), the induction motor slows down thanks to good ol' Lenz!  Yep, everyone knows that you can't get past ol' Lenz.  Then you short the HV (high voltage) coil and the system begins accelerating, in one prototype as much as 100rpm/sec!  Where's ol' Lenzy baby now? ???
We dance round in a ring,
And suppose...
But the Secret Sits in the middle,
And knows.    --R.Frost

woopy

whoaooooohhhh!!! :o

fantastic video      lot of my old questions are answered    and now there are new ones      how does it work and where is our Mr, Lenz in this story ?

if i hear right,  the acceleration increase strongly when you engage the HC coil      the coupling HC-HV seems very effective

looking forward to tomorrow  to see the effect of the HC winding on the new 3wounded HV coil    it will probably be "formidable"

and you know what     tomorrow is my birthday ;D

all the best

Laurent