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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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aether22

Ok, now to new stuff.

First, Is there anyone reading this who is sure they can design an effective mosfet based power control circuit? (I suck at MOSFET circuit design)

Ok, Now on to experiments to do with your shiny new PERI..  PEARAP..  PEREPITE  ahh um,  Thane Heins based Motor Gen. replication.

After you have done what is shown in the demo video parts 1 and 2 try the following...

Divert some or all of the 'Back-EMF' into a motor other than the one driving the Generator (maybe drive the gen by belt to leave the shaft free and clear, getting the motor driving it to go as fast as possible, possibly friction loading the motor under test)

Switch the motor with other devices, such as a poor inductor with lots of core loss.

Or a transformer, preferably apply the backemf to the secondary of a transformer without a closed magnetic core, a loose coupling transformer would be ideal. (note: if you think about it, if it works for a motor there is no way it should know not to wiork for a transformer)

Or into another more conventional and possibly belt driven generator.


Short the generator coil into an identical coil not situatred around the generator rotor, see if this coil when put next to the shaft of a loaded motor (or better have a shaft between motor and core) speeds it up about as much as the other coil does through the rotor and shaft.
If it works then measure the current and recreate the current (magnitude and freq) by normal means (signal gen etc).
See if it is as effective when applied to an electric motor, the possibility is that so callerd cold current flowing through most such generator setups might be the real key to the effects seen and as such the generator current may have a far greater effect than the conventional simulated current.


Another possibility is to remove all the stators and add a friction break, them remove the magnets but replace something of same weight in the same place, compare speed with previous test, should be higher speed with magnets installed

Whoa, very tired, no spell checking this time, keep falling asleep...


?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

innovation_station

 ;D

mosfets hummmmm   

i hear that i say junk lol

a waste of time

may i suggest what muller should have done perhaps he did

TUBES ;D

;) ;) ;D

OR A MECHANICAL OSC  or a VIBRATOR     eh!!! justme ??   lol

ist

but hey if we were real slick it would already be done ......   and the coils built with this in mind .....   as i see it every time the mag passes the coil this makes and breakes the curcit as would the tubes or the fets or the vibrator lol

i think a few more things should come in to play here verry soon

as i said muller   hummmm    16 magnets and 15 coils ringggg a bell   easy turn method  lol


just toooo many ways to achive the same result   eh?!?!?!?!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

innovation_station

so

why does thanes unit self accelerate?!?!?!?!?!


ah

the answer

because  the kickback is harnessed  electrictaly and converted to magnetic engery and dumped via the steel shaft to the rotor of the induction motor thus increaseing the strength in the rotor feild of the induction motor and accelerating it


no ?

yes this is much like a mechanical tpu in a run away mode  ;)

ist



To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Steven Dufresne

Quote from: Heinstein on February 25, 2008, 05:05:02 AM
There is an induction motor I can get for $60, it's 2nd hand. But would want to veriy what type of induction motor Thane is using in his generator demo, shaded pole or split phase?
CAPACITOR START http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prodmap_932134_932134_10051_-15_10051_mode+matchallpartial_mode+matchall_0_0_level1_Ryobi

(makes sense if I go to the bother of buying something special for the experiment I get as close as possible, I wish I could have Thanes philosphical view on failed experiments but they just hurt)
LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR THEN AND DO IT FOR THE SAME REASONS I SUGGESTED TO NOTME.

In fact how much would I have to pay for luc to send a whole working demo unit seriously?
ASSUMING LUC OR STEVE? HAD THE TIME IT WOULD COST ABOUT $750.00 CANADIAN TO BUILD + SHIPPING. IF THEY WON'T DO IT I WILL - IN FACT I HAVE A SPARE ROTOR & MOTOR I CAN SEND YOU FOR $300 CANADIAN + SHIPPING IT'S MY BACKUP BUT I DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE. IT IS AN 18 POLE ROTOR MAGNETS INCLUDED - YOU MAKE THE COILS.

And here's the link for the wheel:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=40029&cat=3,51976
It's the one with the six spokes. If you want pricing in other than Canadian dollars then go to:
http://www.leevalley.com
and do an Item Search for traditional steel wheel. It should ask you about your currency.

@Thane,
What are the cupholders you talk of? Are they the rings around the magnets and if so
where did you get those?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

Heinstein

I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE CRACKPOT SCRIPT CAN YOU SEND ME ONE?

Here you go

Be very hard to understand and technically ignorant     F
Be secretive           F-
Keep real keys to it's success hidden   F (I hope)
Decide humanity isn't ready for it   F
Give no or very poor instructions or plans     E-
Know almost nothing of how it works    F
Rave on about UFO's, Angels, Channeled info etc...    F-
BUT I GOT MY IDEA FROM JESUS - DOES THAT COUNT?

Hold out for Money money money!!, screw the world, even sell out    -F
Create crazy theories (I hate theories, one should wait until a mountain of evidence paints undeniably clear picture)   -F
Insist that OU isn't possible even as you clearly demonstrates it    F
Turn out to be mistaken or scamming     F (I'm sure)
Ignore danger posed by Oil and such    F
Is dismissive and disinterested in verification from respected scientists   F   <The one I would personally score most highly on, I have very low respect or care for them

Overall result F, you fail to be any decent crackpot at all!

DAMN!

COULD ALSO BE SOLID - DOES NOT REQUIRE SPOKES. -
He reasonably assumed, or so I assume

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T MAKE AN ASS OUT OF U AND ME.

But the aim is to slow the motor slow down with drag no?
Indeed we are increasing the rotor diameter to ensure this.
YES

Though if you want to reach OU maybe laminated high quality is best, 
YES

but then again unless you have verified it I think it remains speculation, 
I VERIFIED IT ALREADY

just because you don't know why such would be critical does not mean it may not be until pr oven otherwise by experiment. (Can we say it is improbable that such is required but not impossible unless you have tested it already)

ALREADY TESTED AND VERIFIED IT.

What changed? what was wrong with your first ones or right about your last ones?
THE FIRST ONES WERE CUT UP TRANSFROMER CORES - TOO MUCH WASTED TIME.

Yes but most times thinner wire means more turns in the same space,
WHO CARES ABOUT SPACE - EXCEPT NASA?

So less current flows but you get turns so the field stays the same. 
LESS CURRENT = WEAKER FIELD.

Now something weird might be (IS) happening so you can not be sure sure of otherwise normal physics working as expected. if in doubt replicate the original before changing anything.

DON'T FORGET THE GUNS THOUGH.

These measurements are all estimates and could be easily out +/- 15% possibly even more.
There was a hint that maybe you missed ;)  maybe I can get Luc to get busy with a ruler next time he visits.
OH NO GOOD - YOU HAVE TO NAIL ME RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES.

Though if I ever invent an important device my first action will be to video construction of one or more in as much detail as possible, preferably hold a work shop where many can build it and upload that to youtube with parts lists and plans etc...

THEN THEY WILL CALL YOU CRAZY!

This is the kind of critical information I'm glad you just shared! think of all the shapes I could have tried first!
LEAVE THAT STUFF OUT AND THE UNFRIENDLY SKEPTICS NETWORK WILL COME AFTER YOU.

I'll do one of each, I have a stack of I bar laminations from a transformer perfect for this.

LOVE THAT CRACKPOT CRITERIA LIST!
I NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD! THANKS
Thane