Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[innovation_station]

stop looking for overunity.....


as it is merly unity we serch.....



i would not waste my time with people like nasa or others

if they really do know all the questions what makes you think they will answer them!?

it looks like a magnetic return path to the rotor form the kick back converted back to magnetic engery what is so hard to grasp ?  you can do the same with out moveing parts   

first the kick back must be understood  then the conversion then the acceleration .....

the kick back is radeient engery it must be converted to "REAL" ENGERY to be of any great use .....

so what is the kickback or bemf ....   it is mother nature pushing back from the disturbance we made in her pinch her ... grab and collect her smack and use it .....  the SMACK is far more than what was used to generate the ripple

so in reality use your source power only to pinch her use the returning SMACK to add to the action....

teslas aproch  every action has a reaction ....  but if you can use the original action to make a reaction that adds to the original action where will you be?!?!?!?!    hummmmm...

just like his fuelless generator ...  so it is a motor generator  but as you take power from it it gains in speed why??

well because the action of takeing power from it adds to the magnetic feild that drives it....  thus increaseing it in speed

as i understand it  it will accellerate till it reaches unity and it is deturminied by the LOAD!! 

much like the tpu no??

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[Electrick]

Hi Thane,

thank you Thane for sharing your discoveries. Not many men would take the time as you have done here to share and help mankind.

If Jesus were here He would be pleased.

[gotoluc]

Hi all.

as promised here is the link to the most up to date 2 camera video that I took of Thane's Generator with LIGHTS as load and it has the same acceleration as before.

YouTube Link: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=MFUwNJx6x1o
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ERQEFPBW

We have also completed a new and much more efficient primary coil to test Thane's Toroids and so far have achieved 38% efficiency in Toroid number 1 which is only 2,000 windings per side. We have not wet tested it in Toroid 2 which is 4,000 windings which should double the efficiency and then Toroid 3 which is 5,500 windings, who knows what it will do

Please stay tuned for more updates.

Luc

[RunningBare]

I started this thread with some real excitement, but what have I seen as it has gone on?, no offense to Thane, but he was not the reason I started this thread, I started it because of proffessor Markus Zahn, but it seems that little bit of magic has slipped away, seems the same with NASA as well.

DEAR RUNNINGBARE,

THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS THREAD - AND DEBATE.
WHY FOCUS ON THINGS THAT DON'T WORK, I.E. DR. ZAHN/MIT?
WHY NOT FOCUS ON WHAT DOES WORK, I.E.
Thane

Dear Thane, the answer is quite simple, I wanted to see this come out of the fantasy OU world and enter into the real world such as MIT and NASA.

I mean no offense to anyone here, but until claimed tech is proven outside of this OU world then it remains meaningless.

[aether22]

...you are a troll, go find a bridge I don't want to play.

Aether, I'm not sure what a troll is exactly but I had understood this to be an open forum where, in this topic, everyone is free to discuss Thane's invention. As it turns out, I live only 10 miles away from (the real) Thane so I'm in a position to go look for myself, I have been involved in several technology startup companies myself and I know what it takes to prove out a new idea and to get funding for it. I would very much like to help Thane out because if he has a new technology for improving the electric motor, then that is very exciting news - it deserves serious investment and rapid development. Your lack of objectivity, your affinity for pseudo-science and your tendency to abuse those who are asking simple, direct, objective questions or raising very legitimate and well-thought-out proposals to prove the technology is very damaging indeed to Thane's efforts - because your behaving that way makes it all sound like snake oil: which, we all hope, it is not.

Running Bare, I apologize.

There are many who I have felt were not genuinely interested and just looking to argue and I am not sure that you were really one of them, it is also hard to know what people mean, you say 'so it does not work, thanks aether' which really was not how I would sum it up, his current model is not ready to manufacture, IMO it works to prove how someone could make one and the changes would be to the coil cores to reduce hysteresis and eddy currents and that would make is successful, I also have made it clear that i believe this is a breakthrough in Free Energy, not my definition of does not work.

A troll is a term for someone who tries to start arguments.

Your lack of objectivity your affinity for pseudo-science and your tendency to abuse those who are asking simple, direct, objective questions or raising very legitimate and well-thought-out proposals to prove the technology is very damaging indeed to Thane's efforts - because your behaving that way makes it all sound like snake oil: which, we all hope, it is not.

Obviously I disagree that I lack objectivity and feel that is demonstrated by those who I am arguing with as they are suggesting a test which it will in it's immediate form almost surely fail and it's failure would not disprove what has been proven, I have a repulsion to pseudo science but I have an affinity to evidence/observation/correlation based science and going where that leads even if that is not familiar or comfortable, now IMO when dealing with something that is breaking all the current rules that is the kind of science you would want, now incidentally I went to a lecture where a noble prize winning (for QCD) physicist described what I call the aether but named it 'the void' at the end of the lecture I asked him if this was really an aether and he said yes.
As for being abusive it is the result of having a few too many people saying much the same thing and none of them listening to what I say causing me to repeat myself and doubt how genuine they are.
And I have shown errors in the well thought out proposals, they are in the devices current state totally inappropriate and I would have thought that to be obvious to almost anyone, maybe it is not.

I have made this exception because I felt I owed you an apology and because I am glad you started the thread, but I do question how if you have read and understood my replies to these people how you could think their proposal made any sense.

If you believe that a device which has something travel through the shaft to dramatically lower the losses on the other side is not interesting then maybe this is not for you
Since the shaft is the only thing that changes between the 2 tests this is without ANY possible doubt what is happening, the the only question is in which direction is what traveling to effect performance how?  The answer to which direction (unless it's bi-directional) seems many times more likely to be Generator to Motor, Obviously I am personally convinced I know what is moving through the shaft and it being a magnetic field is doubtful for reasons stated previously, The how can only be speculated at present.

If you are interested is such an extraordinary thing with immediate promises then stay but please try and avoid talking to me unless you are willing to read and comprehend what I say because that has clearly not been happening of late.

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