Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[jacksatan]

Are demands and ego something inherent to free energy groupies? 

You completely misread the emotion... it's utter frustration!
The only reason I chose to add my $.02 is also frustration...

If you and jacksatan and any others still do not understand that the only thing that seems to make a difference is whether there is a solid steel shaft connecting motor to generator, or a 3" air gap, then no amount of explaining is going to help you understand that fact.

The importance of a continuous ferromagnetic path from generator to motor IS THE ONLY THING THAT RESULTS IN UNUSUAL BEHAVIOR.  With a non-continuous path (i.e., two separate shafts separated by significant air gap), the system behaves as expected, and comes to a stop when coils are shorted due to the drag caused by the loaded generator.  The single significant fact of the continuous path has been what Thane points out NUMEROUS times in his vids and his contributions in this forum.  Perhaps its your lack of solid science/engineering background that prevents you from grasping the SIGNIFICANCE of this single variation of the system.

I too would like to see answers to the 5 questions that Aether22 listed... perhaps then we'll have some indication that you understand precisely what is novel and exciting about this system!

-Mark

Should I know you???

[jacksatan]

A possible alternative sollution to #5 (bare in mind I am not a scientist, but I am throwing this out as a possibility for actual discussion - it may be contrary to rule 12532 of the great book of science, but here goes...)

5: Since you believe that the generator load has decreased rather than the motor becoming more powerful, and given that the first video shows load increasing on coil shorting and since the only change in the 2nd vid is that the shaft is all steel can you explain how this steel shaft can dramatically reduce losses in the generator?

Is it possible that that magnetic effect creates an effect similar to a maglev, and thereby removes almost all friction load (losses) from the system?

[RunningBare]

You completely misread the emotion... it's utter frustration!
The only reason I chose to add my $.02 is also frustration...

If you and jacksatan and any others still do not understand that the only thing that seems to make a difference is whether there is a solid steel shaft connecting motor to generator, or a 3" air gap, then no amount of explaining is going to help you understand that fact.

-Mark

Firstly, I was not reading any emotion, secondly I have more than a fair understanding of magnetic flux/paths, thirdly, my post was not aimed at you.

[bitbeam]

There's obviously many smart people's egos involved here, but I think the endless arguing is a waste of time.

At the end of the day, the people acutally doing the research, i.e. Thane, Aether and few others are going to do it the way they see fit.

if you want to see it done another way i.e. polar breeze, jacsatan, there's no reason you can't do it on your own, or you can hire a high school intern to do it for you, Thane has been very open in helping other people get started. 

[one]

Are demands and ego something inherent to free energy groupies? 

You completely misread the emotion... it's utter frustration!
The only reason I chose to add my $.02 is also frustration...

If you and jacksatan and any others still do not understand that the only thing that seems to make a difference is whether there is a solid steel shaft connecting motor to generator, or a 3" air gap, then no amount of explaining is going to help you understand that fact.

The importance of a continuous ferromagnetic path from generator to motor IS THE ONLY THING THAT RESULTS IN UNUSUAL BEHAVIOR.  With a non-continuous path (i.e., two separate shafts separated by significant air gap), the system behaves as expected, and comes to a stop when coils are shorted due to the drag caused by the loaded generator.  The single significant fact of the continuous path has been what Thane points out NUMEROUS times in his vids and his contributions in this forum.  Perhaps its your lack of solid science/engineering background that prevents you from grasping the SIGNIFICANCE of this single variation of the system.

I too would like to see answers to the 5 questions that Aether22 listed... perhaps then we'll have some indication that you understand precisely what is novel and exciting about this system!

-Mark

I don't understand the  frustration .

Mr Satan  has clearly  stated  that he  does not  believe in OU  and  he clearly has no intention of ever believing in OU .

My opinion  from the  fist post of his that I read was that he came here  just to argue.

WIth  people that just want to argue  you  can  drop a  truckload of truth on them and they  will comment only  on the one  or 2 points that they find  inconsistent . 

If   you enjoy  the  art of arguing   by all means  please continue .

If  you   are actually  trying  to  make a point .......you might as well save your energy  for someone that is open minded  enough to accept  your  point.  .



gary