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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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OUman

Quote from: aether22 on May 27, 2008, 08:17:52 PM
Ah, I can just hear Thane already regretting it!

Trying to be difficult, who, ME! no...

So do you have an answer for Thane's question then?

aether22

Quote from: OUman on May 27, 2008, 08:21:58 PM
So do you have an answer for Thane's question then?

Sorry, I can't reply to your lame ass because I am in my work shop building crap and don't know you have posted.

And if I was still here for any reason such as having quite literally freezing cold feet and a lazy ass I still wouldn't want to reply to you.

And even if I did it would be pointless since you already know my position perfectly since you have read and replied to messages outlining it this very day.

So I guess that it doesn't matter that I'm not here to reply to your sorry self!
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on May 25, 2008, 10:00:59 PM
WELL AFTER YOU POSTED THAT PICTURE OF YOUR GIRLFRIEND WE CAN ALL SEE THAT YOU HAVE JUST ABOUT ALL YOU CAN HANDLE.  :D

CHEERS
Thane

Thir,

Now you leave my girlfriend out of this... if my wife finds out I will be in trouble (more than usual)

Ron

i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on May 25, 2008, 11:01:18 PM


I_RON,

CAN YOU CLARIFY "NO CHANGES" - DOES THIS MEAN NO DECELERATION FROM THE HC COILS AS WELL?

BECAUSE NO CHANGES AND NO DEVIATION FROM STEADY STATE MEANS NO LENZ EFFECT FROM WHERE I SIT HERE IN OUR NATIONS CAPITAL.

THANKS
Thane

Dear Ottawa University Man...(OUman) (will the real OUman please stand up?)

Why didn't I think of that? That is priceless... you tax my credibility at times!
of course it is... I was only looking for acceleration....duh

OK, I had to go back and redo that. So the setup is the full height mot cores, the HC coil on first
with the HV coil last on (and thus closest to the magnets).

K, I lied to you, with the HV coils open, and the HC coils into a 5 ohm load (2 volts at .36 amps)
the PM (prime mover) uses 330 watts.

With the HV coils shorted in series, the output on the HC load drops to 1.47 volts at .27 amps
and the rpm goes up and the PM draw drops to 270 watts.
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A full speed test...

HV open...PM = 220 watts, HC load reading is 2.07 volts at .37 amps (same 5 ohm load)

HV shorted... PM = 202 watts, HC load reading is 1.5 volts at .28 amps

with no apparent acceleration....(or deceleration...)

HV open by the way is 637 volts, or there abouts...

And thats the way it is in the provincial CAPITAL... capital show, wot?

At least I don't have a biker girlfriend like some of you naughty ottawa boyz do... 8)

Ron




aether22

Ron man, is it possible that you are using a synchronous motor rather than an induction motor?

As the synch motors do not change speeds under varying loads as the name suggests.

If you are using an induction motor then maybe I should be monitoring power used, but how are you guys calculating power? By measuring the average current through the motor and multiplying that by the volt reading your Multimeter gives you when you do an open circuit test on the ?variac? output? (I am even less sure how to measure a TRIAC based power controller accurately and easily)

That of course ignores phase angle and possibly true RMS readings, still if there is a change there is a change.

I'd also note that my voltages on the secondaries have not got as high as you are reporting, maybe as soon as I finish this job.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes