Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[CRANKYpants]

Thanks for pointing that out, very interesting, not sure I agree with your cause as it could also be that in the high speed test the HV coils were distorting the flux going into the HC coils causing them to drop power and now that they are on the opposite side they don't have that influence. So now the HC coils, without interference, respond accordingly to the increase in rpm.
Regards, Larry

YOU ARE EIDER WIT ME OR AGAIN ME LENNYC - WATS IT GONNA BE?

I USE A SWITCH TO ENGAGE THE HV COIL AND MONITOR THE VOLTAGE ACROSS THE LOAD - THIS TEST WAS PERFORMED WITH THE HEAVY RECTANGULAR MAGNETS SO IT TAKES 20 SECONDS TO INCREASE 1 VOLT - SO I AM GOOD TO GO WITH MY THEORY.

Thane

ps - thanks to JM as well for her efforts too!

[aether22]

I'd like to ask a question, it is not a question that demands replies, and if you do want to reply then in private may be better than cluttering up the list.

Right now all I have done is replicate Thanes device in the most basic way, I am yet to do any experiments that add to anything about it much. (even the deceleration test wasn't very definitive)

But it is my hope and my belief that I may soon have much worth sharing, and beyond the surrogate tests there are very very interesting possibilities.

And here we come to a problem.

Once I have something worth releasing, I can either do so right away, release the info far and wide.
Or share it with a few (or better yet many) trusted people so it can not be lost but don't share it publicly due to all the possible negative attention (from the status quo) and even possible negative consequences of releasing such tech. (destabilization of the world, misuse of the tech)

The latter also gives me protection of a dead mans switch, only there is no protection if they don't know, and not much reason to keep it secret if they do.

So I guess there are 3 options:

Keep stuff secret until everything is worked out including possibly using the tech for it's intended use and creating an org around it. (could take 5-10 years to get to the public stage though the org could be very 'strong' when it goes public meaning things should go as smoothly as possible, may be almost impossible to keep secret from those wanting to stop it though, dead mans switches don't work if no one knows about it, and the org can be far more easily attacked or infiltrated if it is secret)
Still waiting that long does not seem like a good idea the way the world is.

Make some stuff public and more stuff private only to be leaked if anything funny happens. (this way the dead mans switch if effective since 'they' know you have more they really don't want out, but they must know it's inevitable you will release it one day and there may be unscrupulous people who want the info now and will do anything to get it)

And finally being totally public, problem is if you are still developing the tech they can kill you before you get it really finished and except for fear of creating a martyr they have no real reason not to. (Didn't stop them from killing Marinov and many other FE and AG inventors have had attempts made on them, Maybe having tons of people on the same page replicating as we are doing with Thanes tech increases safety a fair bit, but it is clear that at this point Thane is still making the greatest advances in the tech it seems)

Thane has chosen the bravest of the routes, and it may be the wisest.
And I am sure glad that he has.

So if you don't hear any Eureka! from me after I report on the results of the surrogate coil & motor experiments then you will never know if it's because I have not got any further or it is because I have chosen to go the secretive route.

I am still utterly undecided on what I will do, one thing is for sure though and that is the weight, the obligation, the significance of this can be lessened (making work psychologically easier) if I fantasize about the technology and keeping it secret and not the implications of going public.

So my question is 'what should I do?' and 'what would/will you do?', try and give reasons if you do choose to give an answer.

Ideas or thoughts are also welcome.

And yes, all this is putting the cart before the horse but I do hope to have discoveries in these 2 areas (plus the aether) or else why am I here?
And I could have interesting results within the week, year, decade and these issues will then be more immediate.

[i_ron]

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charter member Pacific Breeze in recognition of Thane's contribution to Electronics, Humor and
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ENJOY!

[OUman]

Once I have something worth releasing, I can either do so right away, release the info far and wide.
Or share it with a few (or better yet many) trusted people so it can not be lost but don't share it publicly due to all the possible negative attention (from the status quo) and even possible negative consequences of releasing such tech. (destabilization of the world, misuse of the tech)

I'd keep it under wraps if I were you. The most serious concern would certainly be the destabilization of the world, especially with the overnight collapse of the oil industry. And as far as misuse of the technology, the biggest danger would be a dramatic increase in global warming if a large number of people start using those big heat-generating coils all at once. And don't let anyone know your address - oh, oops, you already have...

[aether22]

I'd keep it under wraps if I were you. The most serious concern would certainly be the destabilization of the world, especially with the overnight collapse of the oil industry. And as far as misuse of the technology, the biggest danger would be a dramatic increase in global warming if a large number of people start using those big heat-generating coils all at once. And don't let anyone know your address - oh, oops, you already have...

While I appreciate your reply, I must say it is the most 'Spooky' response possible, you aren't doing much to persuade me I'm mistaken with a reply like "Don't tell anyone cause bad stuff will happen, especially to Big Oil".

I disagree with the global warming argument, however feel the destabilization is somewhat of a concern although not a bigger concern than things staying the way they are.

And there is the flip side, transforming the world (however awkward or straightforward the transformation is) into a space faring clean green Utopia where no one need be sick (Orgone or life force energy is a straight-forward application of aetheric engineering) sure sounds worth losing a few jobs or disrupting/collapsing the economy to me.