Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[CRANKYpants]

If all you need to show is whether it's accelerating or decelerating, you can get that from the tachometer. But that tells you nothing about power. What's important is power.

ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS NOT DELIBERATELY AND CONVENIENTLY AND PERSISTENTLY RETARDED BEYOND ALL REASON - KNOWS THAT A TACHOMETER ONLY READS SPEED - WHEREAS MOTOR STATOR CURRENT INDICATES SPEED AS WELL (IF YOU KNOW HOW TO READ IT) - BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY FROM THE WORK ENERGY PRINCIPLE YOU NEED POWER (OR A STATOR CURRENT INCREASE) TO TAKE THE ROTOR FROM ONE RPM LEVEL TO A HIGHER ONE - TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INCREASED ENERGY STORED AS INERTIA.

BUT JUST LOOKING AT CURRENT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH ALSO BECAUSE IF THE MOTOR POWER FACTOR IS INCREASING WHILE THE STATOR CURRENT IS DECREASING THE OVERALL POWER CONSUMED BY THE MOTOR MAY BE GOING UP.

SO WE HAVE CONFIRMED IN OUR TESTS THAT THE MOTOR POWER FACTOR DOES NOT CHANGE AND SO MONITORING CURRENT DEVIATIONS IS A VERY GOOD SPEED AND TORQUE INDICATOR - SPECIAL CARE MUST BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT STATOR CURRENT DOES NOT INCREASE AT ALL WHEN THE HV COILS ARE ENGAGED - IF IT DID THAT WOULD BE AN INDICATION THAT THE MOTOR IS CAUSING ACCELERATION AND THAT THE WORK ENERGY PRINCIPLE & THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY ARE VALID IN THE SYSTEM.

Thane

[aether22]

SPECIAL CARE MUST BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT STATOR CURRENT DOES NOT INCREASE AT ALL WHEN THE HV COILS ARE ENGAGED - IF IT DID THAT WOULD BE AN INDICATION THAT THE MOTOR IS CAUSING ACCELERATION AND THAT THE WORK ENERGY PRINCIPLE & THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY ARE VALID IN THE SYSTEM.

Thane

Yes but even if it were how could such an effect be explained?
Only by some exotic phenomena being conducted from the generator into the motor could account for a paradoxical increase of current with a simultaneous increase of speed.

One question Thane if I may.

Do you recognize that the following 2 coils are equivalent in energy (power output) and MMF (magnetic strength) output:

Coil 1:    1v   10A     10 turns
Coil 2:  10v     1A   100 turns

That is all, I just want to know what I would have to experimentally show, not looking to start a discussion.

[CRANKYpants]

Thanks, point well taken, now how can we get others from wasting time drinking OU Kool-Aid?
Regards, Larry

HE IS OUR VERY OWN HOUtel California

AND IT'S NATURAL SELECTION LARRY - THIS IS HOW WE CULL THE HERD AND WEED OUT THE "USELESS EATERS".

Creepy Bilderberg Group quote for ya there Larry...

Thane

[CRANKYpants]

Yes but even if it were how could such an effect be explained?
Only by some exotic phenomena being conducted from the generator into the motor could account for a paradoxical increase of current with a simultaneous increase of speed.

IT IS NORMAL INDUCTION MOTOR BEHAVIOUR - WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS AN INCREASE IN SHAFT TORQUE LOADING WILL CAUSE - A DECREASE IN SPEED - WHICH WILL CAUSE - AN INCREASE IN STATOR CURRENT - WHICH WILL CAUSE - AN INCREASE IN SPEED.

AND THAT IS WHAT IS OCCURRING IN THIS SYSTEM IT'S ALL NORMAL - DON'T YOU KNOW ANYTHING?

Thane

[CRANKYpants]

Do you recognize that the following 2 coils are equivalent in energy (power output) and MMF (magnetic strength) output:

Coil 1:    1v   10A     10 turns
Coil 2:  10v     1A   100 turns

KEEP ADDING TURNS UNTIL YOU GET THIS:

Coil 3:   ?v    0.001 A  ?turns

THEN WE CAN DISCUSS - APPLES TO ORANGES.

Thane