Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

And your specific disagreements with his analysis are what exactly?

With all the things I have said many many times don't pretend you couldn't write that answer just as well as I, it would be utter redundancy for me to go over it yet again and bore everyone even more, if you really were so mentally deficient to have forgotten everything I have said what good would it do for me to say it again?

[aether22]

THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE CONSTRUCTING A "MODIFIED PRONY BRAKE" WITH A DIGITAL KITCHEN SCALE AND A LEVER WHICH APPLIES PRESSURE TO THE MOTOR DRIVE SHAFT BY ADDING WEIGHT TO THE SCALE.

I WILL SHOW HOW MANY KILOS/POUNDS IT TAKES TO DECELERATE THE SYSTEM AND STOP IT COMPLETELY - NO COILS INVOLVED.

THEN I WILL ENGAGE THE HV COILS WITH THE SAME WEIGHT MOTOR I/P ETC AND SHOW HOW MUCH THE HV COILS CAN "POWER THROUGH".

BADDA BING - BADDA BOOM!

T

Sounds excellent.

[aether22]

THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE CONSTRUCTING A "MODIFIED PRONY BRAKE" WITH A DIGITAL KITCHEN SCALE AND A LEVER WHICH APPLIES PRESSURE TO THE MOTOR DRIVE SHAFT BY ADDING WEIGHT TO THE SCALE.

I WILL SHOW HOW MANY KILOS/POUNDS IT TAKES TO DECELERATE THE SYSTEM AND STOP IT COMPLETELY - NO COILS INVOLVED.

THEN I WILL ENGAGE THE HV COILS WITH THE SAME WEIGHT MOTOR I/P ETC AND SHOW HOW MUCH THE HV COILS CAN "POWER THROUGH".

BADDA BING - BADDA BOOM!

T

BTW you may want to try a test without the rotor, just the motor and brake. (just a thought, not much value though it may reduce some complaints)
Also if the generator is providing enough torque to rotate it's self and the motor and brake then detaching the motor and brake (since it is net drag) should indeed let it power it's self, though personally I think the torque comes from the motor and as such the test would fail.

[OUman]

With all the things I have said many many times don't pretend you couldn't write that answer just as well as I, it would be utter redundancy for me to go over it yet again and bore everyone even more, if you really were so mentally deficient to have forgotten everything I have said what good would it do for me to say it again?

You have not made any argument that refutes what that fellow is saying. I won't re-post his points because it's long and it would be redundant. However, I think it was detailed, logical, well supported and well reasoned - and I think if you have counter-arguments it deserves more than your dismissive "he's a hack". I think the reason why you refuse to detail your counter-arguments is that they have no substance. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

To recap, there are four theories on the table:

1. The generator is creating EM feedback along the motor shaft which stimulates the motor into producing more power out for less power in. (Thane's original theory, now abandoned I think).

2. The generator is creating aether feedback into the motor which stimulates the motor into producing more power out for less power in. (A22's theory, I think, pls correct me if I'm wrong).

3. There is nothing special about the Perepiteia generator that can't be explained by the behaviour of the
induction motor attached to it (ie inherent torque-speed characteristics). (Thane's PhD friend).

4. The generator itself is tapping into unconventional power sources, independently of the motor, to provide OU behaviour. (Thane's current theory, which I may have mis-stated slightly because I'm not really sure of the details now).

I think #3 is the only one that is supported by the experimental evidence presented so far.

[aether22]

3 stacked magnets on rotor, utterly crappy acceleration!

I tried it with my new pulley rotor since I could not imagine of any way to stack 3 magnets on the one thane sent without losing all the magnets as they fly off the rotor.

While the pulley rotor does well with enough with 1 x 6 magnets (about the same generally as Thanes rotor did with 18 NNNSSS), it does poorly with the 3 x 6 stack, I could get it so that deceleration was 1 rpm every reading, and when shorted it accelerated about 1rpm every read (readings are a bit less than a second a part) where with 1 x 6 it could be decelerating by 5 rpm every reading and accelerating by about 10rpm every reading on shorting.

The voltage was higher than I recall seeing before and the short circuit current was up to .1A

I should try and see if maybe the rotor/stator gap was too small creating too much cogging torque, and I'll also try a 2 stack, which preformed poorly for Thane.

The most likely reason for the different results compared to Thanes outstanding (brutal was being overused) results is the stator and the gap, of course you can't rule out rotor (my rotor might have a worse core losses) and possibly motor differences.

Probably my next test will be with my monster coil to see if it will work with 1 or 3 stacks.