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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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aether22

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 10, 2008, 06:40:39 AM

SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISTILL YOUR THEORY DOWN INTO SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN "SEE" IN THEIR MINDS EYE.

T

Assuming by theory you mean 'Aether theory'.
Well it's not a theory, it's an observation.

Fire for instance is an observation, what fire is is a theory.

I have not created a theory, a theory is a projection of where the evidence leads, theories are projections in the mind of what data may be telling us.

But observations leading to inescapable conclusions, that's not a theory, if you are shown fire and all you try and do is understand it's effects and how to build it and stop it and control it that is not theory.  Explaining the why's is when you get into theory.

One of the problems is that I have refused to project beyond what is plainly shown by observation and so my understanding of the aether though accurate to a very high degree is only so because it is fuzzy, obviously sometimes I will hold a tiny 'theory' to the side of why doing x does y but I keep that separate from what I know.

It is unreasonable for me to expect you to listen to all the evidence and unreasonable for you to expect me to show you and as this is more than you can take someones word on the only ones who will agree are those who have done the research and found the same truth (as had RCH).
However if you find that the torque does occur at the motor then maybe you will be ready to listen, but then again understanding the aether has not helped me exploit it much (although I had some seeming successes), and it may not help you either to be working with such a tenuous concept.

Hopefully it no longer sounds as condescending?





?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

By the way, it seems that Stefan really did verify that Polarbreeze and OUman were one and the same.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

CRANKYpants

QuoteMaybe a dumb question: what is the Pout / Pin ratio ?

WELCOME ALAN,

NOT A DUMB QUESTION (ALBEIT TOUCHY AREA) - BUT JUST NOT RELEVANT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE ARE NOT WORKING WITH FULL GENERATORS.

IF YOU GO BACK A FEW PAGES YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN POSTED A NUMBER OF TIMES BY A CRIMINALLY INSANE COMPULSIVE LIAR WITH A SPLIT PERSONALITY / BI-POLAR DISORDER.

IT HAS ALSO BEEN ANSWERED.

T

i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 09, 2008, 11:22:58 PM
Ron, the west coast # one

NO NOT QUITE ... TELL ME IF THIS MAKES SENSE?

IF YOU ARE LIKE ME YOU HAVE YOUR TWO MOTS POSITIONED SUCH THAT THEY LINE UP WITH A NORTH AND A SOUTH POLE ON THE ROTOR - CORRECT?

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN INTRODUCE ANOTHER CORE IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER NORTH AND SOUTH POLE PAIR ON THE ROTOR SUCH THAT THE INITIAL CORE DRAG IS DECREASED BECAUSE THE 1ST CORE DRAG IS BALANCED BY THE 2ND?

THE CORES SHOULD ALSO BE LAMINATED CORES - YOU CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT HYSTERISIS AND EDDY CURRENTS.

"MAKE IT SO #1"

T



T 4 2,

It is not easy is it? lol. I get different readings on different days, even on the same day!

But generally speaking each core seems to draw 13 to 15 watts and this adds up for each core added
with just two cores, one on a pole and one in the middle I had a best run of 12 watts per coil.

Two cores aligned and one in the middle was 240 watts whereas three cores aligned was 237 watts?

Interesting in that the initial baseline run was 185 watts but at the end of the experiment the unit
was hot and the aether had settled into a pattern, the draw had dropped to 176 watts!

The one single core was 1.590 sq inches and drew 13 watts

The mot core, run as a single, is 2.750 sq inches and drew 15 watts

So I still stand by my statement that the cores have drag, that this drag adds for each extra core.

R_1



aether22

The coil now works well, at generating power anyway.  if I put the MOT secondary and the coil I wound myself in series I get .15A and tons of volts and that is without moving the rotor especially close to the stator. If i hold the aligator clips near each other I get a small arc which heats up the alligator clip to glowing.

But there is deceleration! despite my coil being 92 ohms and the MOT coil being 148 or so ohms.
It seems that with the 3 stack of magnets none of these laminated cores are giving me acceleration.

And yet my monster coil workes just fine.

So I am going to take the induction motor off isolation, this email just gives everything a chance to cool down and me to cool down from the sound of noisey generators.

?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes