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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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i_ron

Quote from: CRANKYpants on January 27, 2009, 07:21:09 AM
YES WOOPY THAT WAS MY IDEA TO I_RON AS WELL - BUT ALAS HE DIDN'T AGREE WITH ME SO HE PULLED OUT HIS ULTRA-HIGH TECH  HANDY DANDY "OLDSCHOOL" SOFTWARE AND SENT ME A DRAWING WITH THE MAGNETS AND COILS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DRUM  (although I can't post it due to copyright laws and also due to the fact that his software is too BIG) - WHICH IS MOST LIKELY A BETTER IDEA ANYWAY.

WE WOULD USE MAGNETS WITH MOUNTING HOLES IN THEM AND I EXPECT THE E COILS WOULD GO SIDEWAYS RATHER THAN LENGTHWISE AROUND THE DRUM.

T

HEY, big T, don't get me wrong. I am not rigid... in my thinking, and often say to the wife, I am
very flexible these days, not at all as I once was! 

What Laurent has posted is exactly what I have been campaigning, and it is you who has miss-
understood, as usual. Kudo's Laurent for the previous photo's and this cleverly presented work.
I agree... actually with both of you... although only 2/3 with Mr T. I am wondering if three poles are
really necessary? Would not two do the same thing? In the magneto (as posted by kator) there
are only two magnets but three poles. It is the sudden flux reversal of the center pole that generates
the high potential. Where is this in Teaze's work? All that is happening is both outside poles are
using the center pole as a return? Can anyone define an advantage in the three pole core?

Puzzled Ron





i_ron

Quote from: woopy on January 27, 2009, 08:37:37 AM
@Thane

gulp !!!

but if you put the coil *sideway*   outside or inside     the drum ... how does the theory work ???

in your Nasa video part 1  i understood that during the HV discharge,  the flux attracted the next magnet while repeling the preceeding one   so the magnets have to traject along the coil and not sideway

did i miss something? :-\

Laurent

Lauent,

I don't think so... 'cause there is still a different polarity magnet approaching and one receding, right?

All,

Third and final "old style" rotor hot off the 3D replicator. A little better engineering on this one where
the rotor has pockets and the cups have a boss that fits into the pocket... more better!

Hope to get some testing in with this one... my previous one spun up so fast it flew off into the sky...
Heard from a usually reliable source that it landed in California somewhere.... woo wee... gonna
send out the posse (Mr T) to look for it....

Ron



woopy

hi Ron

first   i am sure that your latest disk is very very strong     so please let it spin and spin so fast  that, if it it happens to fly off    :o          i am sure it will go the right direction this time         eastly     and high enough to  overfly switzerland moutains and why not  land in my garden   ( I have a good workshop to repare the eventual damages)

  bravo very nice piece of machinery

OK back to our purpose

concerning the  drum-sideway montage of the coil.

have i to understand that when the center HV coil "discharges" the effect goes not only to the both HC cores  but      while doing this         the HC cores get  also the ability and power to atract the approaching magnet and repel the receding magnet    sideway ?

so a single HV discharge could influence an " acting zone " of 6 sideway magnets ?

very interesting

Laurent


CRANKYpants

HEY EVERYONE,

THIS INPUT IS ALL REALLY AWESOME!  ;)

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT...  - BUT THE SAME.

I MADE A DISCOVERY TODAY THAT THE HV COIL COULD BE ELIMINATED AND HAVE TWO HC COILS INSTEAD.
THIS ARRANGEMENT DOES NOT ACCELERATE NOR DOES IT DECELERATE SO FAR (still early).

THE NEW E CORE CONTAINS DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THE ORIGINAL B-ITOROID GENERATOR COIL AND THE PLATE GENERATOR AND WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ROTOR MATERIAL OUTSIDE THE MAGNET. ULTIMATELY THE ROTOR WOULD BE MADE OF LAMINATED MATERIAL.

QUICK INITIAL TESTING SHOWED NO DECELERATION EVEN WITH SHORTED HC COILS - BUT MORE TESTING IS REQUIRED WHEN I GET BACK FROM CA.

ALSO THIS COULD BE MODIFIED SO THAT IT EMPLOYS ONLY ONE MAGNET AT THE  HV COIL AND THE HC WOUND AROUND IT AND THE BEMF INDUCE HC FLUX COMPLETES ITS FLUX RETURN PATH THROUGH THE ROTOR AND DOES NOT COME NEAR OR AFFECT ANY MAGNETS ON THE ROTOR.

I_RON I AM GOING TO MAIL YOU A COIL TOMORROW SO YOU CAN MOUNT IT AND PLAY WITH YOURSELF IN YOUR SHOP.

T

CRANKYpants

IN THE ABOVE DIAGRAM:

THE ROTOR MAGNET FLUX VIRTUALLY SATURATES THE PRIMARY LEG AT TDC - THUS ENSURING NO HC COIL INDUCED BEMF FLUX CAN TRAVEL DOWN AND IMPEDE THE MAGNET ON THE ROTOR.

THE BEMF INDUCED HC COIL FLUX FOLLOWS THE PATH OF LEAST RELUCTANCE INTO THE OUTER CORE LEGS WHICH ARE LARGER AND ALWAYS AT A LOWER RELUCTANCE THAN THE PRIMARY CORE LEG.

CHEERS
T