Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[capthook]

One last try:

You give the torque/RPM of the shaft as power in.
What is needed/relevant/important is the power input required to achieve that torque/RPM.

Lock your shaft to prevent turning.
Plug the motor in.
Power in: wattage drawn from the AC outlet to your motor = maximum (say 100W)
Power out: 0W
Efficiency: 0/100 = 0%

But according to your logic, there is no power in, no power consumed.

Now let your shaft turn at whatever torque/RPM you desire.
Power in is STILL: wattage drawn from the AC outlet to your motor
Power out: whatever it is you can generate

The request made many, many times, and unanswered by you, it to show POWER IN - WATTAGE DRAWN FROM THE AC OUTLET BY YOUR MOTOR.
Without POWER IN measured, calculating efficiency is impossible.

You have shown 8.5 watts out?  With how much ELECTRICAL POWER consumed by your motor?  100W? (better to stick your head in the sand and ignore this?)
8.5/100= 8.5% efficiency.

Have a nice day and best of luck.....................

[i_ron]

"IF THE DRIVE SHAFT IS NOT TURNING WHEN THE WIND IS BLOWING 100 km/hr THERE IS NO POWER IN & NO POWER OUT "

NOPE AND WRONG!  You still have POWER IN.  You just have 0% effeciency at converting that power in.

And I would repost my content that you edited and deleted.... but at this point ...............why frikin bother!!!!!!!

Welcome to the club... I have had two of mine "edited" but caught them in time to 'modify' them
back to original. It is abuse of moderator power and a word to Harti would soon fix that.

Ron

[capthook]

Welcome to the club... I have had two of mine "edited" but caught them in time to 'modify' them
back to original. It is abuse of moderator power and a word to Harti would soon fix that.
Ron

Maybe.
I DID promptly send Stefan a scathing PM right after it happened........
To selectively edit the content of MY POST and thus have them represented as MY WORDS is WRONG!!!!!

edit: P.S.  For the record, he has since apologized and agreed that editing posts in that manner is not proper and was 'accidental'.  Apology accepted.

[Coleston]

Now let your shaft turn at whatever torque/RPM you desire.

wow you have got to be joking or something.

Your gonna let your motor? MOTOR I COMMAND YOU TO TURN.
Or perhaps something more like Motor, you have my permission to turn. Motor I allow you to turn.

Presto!

It doesn't freakin work like that buddy, motor shafts locked in place.

Magic perhaps? TURNEY SESAME?

no.

So therefore 100 watts in 0 watts out = 0% efficient.

So there you go, Thanes motor is not powerfull enough to turn the rotor, so its 0% efficient. Ok, false claim. Total BS, No OU here, move along, nothing to see, just another quack with a hokey machine.

But wait! Theres output watts? How the fuck?! What in tarnation?

0% efficient generator putting out 8.5 watts. Doesn't that give you pause for a second? Or are you gonna go back to TURNEY SESAME!

According to math, and physics and everything input x efficiency = output right?

100 x 0 = 0 or perhaps 100 x 0 = 8.5  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The motor accelerates ITSELF under load. As far as I know theres never been anything else thats ever done that in the history of the world. You totally miss this and immediately try to apply standard formulas.

Ok no problem, standard formulas are easy. the motors 0% efficient. Done. Dont dare try to call it 8.5% or anything like that, thats impossible.

You can't see the forest through the trees is whats going on here, I'm afraid.

[CRANKYpants]

THERE IS A COSMIC JOKE BEING PLAYED ON ALL THE OU PEOPLE HERE...

WHO ARE BLIND  AND CAN'T RECOGNIZE SOMETHING WHEN IT IS SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT SOME PRESCRIBED FORMULA. 

OU PEOPLE WHO ARE EVERY BIT AS RIGID AND EMBEDDED IN DOGMA AS CONVENTIONAL SCIENTISTS WHO THEY CRITICIZE. 

I SWEAR THIS IS THE VERY REASON JESUS DOESN'T SHOW HIS FACE AROUND CHRISTIANS - WHO WOULD KILL HIM
INSTANTLY.

CHEERS TO
ALL