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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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Covey

I'm trying to understand what some of the critics keep stating. Is it that while the RPM's are increasing, there is no torque to push you up hill?
For example in his first and second demo if I was to grab the brass coupler or steel shaft I would be able to slow it down quickly because their is no power?
So what he has to show is ability to make the motor do work as well as increasing RPM's?
Or is it the Over unity of less in and more out in Voltage?
or are they the same he's just trying to prove this theory with the last video?
Really a newbie and I learn things in layman's terms.

Covey ???



Covey

I'm trying to see and understand what Thane is accomplishing in layman's theorem to what is possible with the first presentation. A windmill defiantly seems to at least be way more efficient if not to say perpetual which I won't say yet till it's proven but I do wish for it a great deal.
Otherwise a propeller on a airplane or a boat. Does the system continue running faster limited to the construction materials or is their a limit on the acceleration based on voltage applied?
I would love to be able to follow on a small scale to play with just to understand what I am seeing. I think this might be a fun venture to learn about.

Covey

OK, I think I'm understanding the induction motor and what he's been attempting has nothing to do with increasing RPM velocity because he never surpasses the Ryobi bench grinder RPM limit 3600. He's been showing how his generator is actually producing it's own voltage to a point where it's taking less voltage to run everything including the induction motor and potentially able to bring more voltage out. He's getting more back out per each coil in total making it surpass what's going in by putting more coils.

Covey

Goat

Quote from: minde4000 on May 09, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Wow. I cant find much about thane or his projects either on google or yahoo or altavista (just a few days ago google search offered multiple working links about him and his project) . Wiki posts dissapeared also . The only "overunity.com" link does take me to russian site too.  Some of the links including videos from other sites do work if searched including full name.

@ minde4000

There must have been something wrong with your query as all the links to Thane's work and newspaper articles are still available on Google when I queried the following:

Query = Thane Heins Perepiteia:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Thane+Heins+Perepiteia&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

Query = Thane Heins Perepeteia:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ei=CMUGSqu6HYOHtgflzdmcBw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&q=Thane+Heins+Perepeteia&spell=1

News:

http://news.google.ca/archivesearch?pz=1&ned=ca&hl=en&q=Thane+heins&cf=all

All my searches were performed from Canada, are you performing the searches from another country?  If so why would they be blocking it I wonder?


Regards,
Paul

hydrocontrol

Quote from: Covey on May 10, 2009, 03:16:30 AM
OK, I think I'm understanding the induction motor and what he's been attempting has nothing to do with increasing RPM velocity because he never surpasses the Ryobi bench grinder RPM limit 3600. He's been showing how his generator is actually producing it's own voltage to a point where it's taking less voltage to run everything including the induction motor and potentially able to bring more voltage out. He's getting more back out per each coil in total making it surpass what's going in by putting more coils.
Covey

Thane is trying to show multiple things at the same time using his Ryobi demostration unit. The Ryobi was not chosen for efficiency but as a handy rotor drive mechanism. One of the biggest things that Thane has shown is that you can "cheat" Lenz law. You have to have current flowing in order to have Lenz take effect. If you only have voltage flowing and not current then the Lenz is not as bad. In order to have only voltage and very little current you have to wind coils with lots of very fine (30 to 40)  gauge wire. The additional benefit is that the Lenz that develops in the setup is delayed by using finer wire and that allows the resulting magnetic field that forms in the coils/cores to push the rotor magnets along in the path of rotor rotation. This only will start to happen at a certain RPM depending on several conditions and is why in his demos you will see the rotor slow down if the rotor RPM is not above a certain threshold.
The effect should work on a smaller scale but it would require a fair amount of trial and error.
  In reviewing the last video that Thane posted that has his huge backing core with fingers I think I see a potential  ;D problem. I think once he gets over half the new system populated with coils it will no longer speed up but will in fact slow down. This is because his huge backer core will act as a magnetic short for the entire system. I think he will have to segment (cut) the core into 1/3 or 1/4 parts in order to keep the rotor effect increasing.
I really wish Thane would update us with more news.