Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[polarbreeze]

I think the only observation of any difference between brass and steel behaviour has come from Thane's own setup and almost no information has been posted about that so it's hard to draw any conclusions about it.
PB

So to continue then, what is the justification for your unambigious conclusionÃ,  "This explains why a brass shaft...can transport the effect as well as steel can." when as you point out the only experimentalÃ,  data we have says otherwise. What was that? Some kind of weird psyop? Please answer my specific question about the justification for your statement before claiming some other main point.

The point I'm making is that there is no reason to invoke any idea of electromagnetic feedback somehow influencing motor performance because the acceleration, or not, is fully explained by the instability, or not, of the load (ie the magnetic brake). This explains why a brass shaft...can transport the effect as well as steel can (ie because it's transported mechanically).

I don't think anyone has observed any difference between brass and steel, except for the one report in Thane's setup, for which we have almost no information and which has not been replicated by anyone else. But if it is validated by other experiments that brass does behave differently from steel, I think it's more likely that it's because it's altering the properties of the magnetic brake, and NOT because there's some kind of an "EM feedback" going on.

PB

[LarryC]

DEAR LARRY,

THE PLEXIGLASS WHEEL ONLY WORKS WITH THE 8 COIL SET UP NOT WHEN ONLY A SINGLE COIL IS EMPLOYED. ACCELERATION IS THERE BUT IT IS SLIGHT.

ALSO LUC AND I DISCOVERED RECENTLY THAT LOW GAUGE WIRE PRODUCING HIGH CURRENT SLOWS DOWN THE MAGNETICALLY COUPLED STEEL ROTOR BUT HIGH GAUGE WIRE PRODUCING HIGH VOLTAGE ACCELERATES THE ROTOR.

WE ARE DESIGNING OUR DUNE BUGGY GENERATOR WITH LOW GAUGE, HIGH CURRENT WIRE FOR REGENERATIVE BRAKING AND HIGH GAUGE, HIGH VOLTAGE FOR REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION.

CHEERS
Thane

Thanks for the rest of the picture. One does make some ignorant assumptions without all the fact. Very interesting new facts about the gauge.

I agree with JustMe, we do need an area to keep all of the characteristics of this design.

Regards,
Larry

[jacksatan]

PB - I have not been recording all of the test results as they have been posted, but it seems that you have (you indicated that you observed a trend previously) - could you post a spreadsheet of the raw data so that we can project trends and verify experementally? - if I recall correctly, Thane had indicated that some of his trends ran past unity... but at the time I did not think there were enough data points to make an educated projection that was anything but linear...

[JustMe]

I don't think anyone has observed any difference between brass and steel, except for the one report in Thane's setup, for which we have almost no information and which has not been replicated by anyone else. But if it is validated by other experiments that brass does behave differently from steel, I think it's more likely that it's because it's altering the properties of the magnetic brake, and NOT because there's some kind of an "EM feedback" going on.

PB

We can agree then that your statement "This explains why a brass shaft...can transport the effect as well as steel can" is based on 1) your own new untested theory and not on experimental evidence available from any of the available instances of this setup at this time, and 2) the experimental evidence that is available at this time does not support your hypothesis that a brass shaft is able to produce the effect in Thane's setup.

Aether22 has said he intends to fully reproduce Thane's setup, brass shaft and all, so that should be an important contribution to the knowledgebase one way or the other.  In the meantime, your statements with regard to the brass shaft and the purported lack of any need to consider electromagnetic feedback seem more than premature.

[polarbreeze]

I don't think anyone has observed any difference between brass and steel, except for the one report in Thane's setup, for which we have almost no information and which has not been replicated by anyone else. But if it is validated by other experiments that brass does behave differently from steel, I think it's more likely that it's because it's altering the properties of the magnetic brake, and NOT because there's some kind of an "EM feedback" going on.

PB

We can agree then...

Yes, we can agree, except that what I posted about load stability/instability is hardly an "untested theory" - it's textbook stuff and it does explain all results that have been observed posted to date AFAIK.

Aether22 has said he intends to fully reproduce Thane's setup, brass shaft and all...

Excellent. Looking forward to that.

PB